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In my opinion this thread demands great attention. Postecoglou is being taken to school by Premier League managers. Frankly, it's becoming unbearable to watch. Laughable.

Also frankly, I haven't given this issue great attention as of yet. So that I do not know the key problem. My hunch is that it is some sort of a lack of grit.

But NOT JUST lack of grit. Also a lack of smarts so that when Postecoglou attempts to apply the grit, it is misapplied which compounds the problem. That's my hunch.

After that, my next thoughts go to the keeper who does not appear to have sturdiness about himself.
 
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In my opinion this thread demands great attention. Postecoglou is being taken to school by Premier League managers. Frankly, it's becoming unbearable to watch. Laughable.

Also frankly, I haven't given this issue great attention as of yet. So that I do not know the key problem. My hunch is that it is some sort of a lack of grit.

But NOT JUST lack of grit. Also a lack of smarts so that when Postecoglou attempts to apply the grit, it is misapplied which compounds the problem. That's my hunch.

After that, my next thoughts go to the keeper who does not appear to have sturdiness about himself.
Go away please Gooner
 
Conceded 2 all season?

One was against the scum who are very good at them in there stoke esque ways.

The other was just unlucky against Villa a game we dominated bar that.

Vics still a bit of a worry with how he struggles to command the box but it seems we have worked on em
 
Conceded 2 all season?
Is this true? If so I didn't know it. Why not forward links with such stats?

Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for a while. What stuck in my mind was the way the game against Woolwich was lost, as well as the Villa game. I thought that was huge to drop points like that against Woolwich. I thought that was an easy goal for them. And the Villa goal was via the same sort of a formula. I thought it was a very cheap way to allow goals. Against Woolwich that was basically a tap-in header. Wasn't even a great header. And Villa was the same thing. It was a tap-in goal.
 
The other was just unlucky against Villa
That was not unlucky against Villa. That was a system that many PL managers do. Guardiola did it recently with that corner kick winning goal in the last minute of the stoppage time that went to VAR but was approved (can't remember against who). Those were huge 3 points won by City. Arteta did it in that game and won another huge 3 points via the same thing. And now Emery's Villa did it too by scoring from the same thing. It's all by the same formula/system.

To me that stuff is extremely infuriating. Why bother playing a great game if you're gonna allow cheap goals from corner kicks? Personally, that's how I feel about it.

I don't know who else among the PL managers is doing that system. The above are the ones I've seen do it. I don't watch many Premier League games and I don't have time to look at how many different teams and managers do their set pieces when it comes to attacking and defending them. Also, game highlights rarely show well-defended set pieces. So that such data are not easy to even see. Suppose I would like to see how Spurs and Ipswich attack and defend set pieces. That information cannot be found in highlights. All one can see are snippets of such stuff and usually a very biased sort of snippets involving things that happen to become very exciting or close to exciting (i.e. chances).

But, lol, a careful, smart and prudent observer can learn almost everything indeed even from such snippets. 😉
 
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Is this true? If so I didn't know it. Why not forward links with such stats?

Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for a while. What stuck in my mind was the way the game against Woolwich was lost, as well as the Villa game. I thought that was huge to drop points like that against Woolwich. I thought that was an easy goal for them. And the Villa goal was via the same sort of a formula. I thought it was a very cheap way to allow goals.

yes it's true, have you watched us this season? despite the Sky Sports narrative we have been just fine defending set pieces, we've faced dozens of corners with every team fouling the keeper and handled it fine.
the Villa one was unlucky, pedro porros attempted clearance ended up nearly being a own goal which vic had to save, the saved rebound falling to villa player.
only thing i noticed with that goal is that Maddison or Johnson weren't in-between vic and the inevitable opposition player obstructing him
 
Is this true? If so I didn't know it. Why not forward links with such stats?

Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for a while. What stuck in my mind was the way the game against Woolwich was lost, as well as the Villa game. I thought that was huge to drop points like that against Woolwich. I thought that was an easy goal for them. And the Villa goal was via the same sort of a formula. I thought it was a very cheap way to allow goals. Against Woolwich that was basically a tap-in header. Wasn't even a great header. And Villa was the same thing. It was a tap-in goal.

We lost against Woolwich because we didn't score any goals.

Conceding 1 goal shouldn't decide a game yet it did that day because of how we were in attack, not the method of their 1 goal necessarily.
 
In my opinion this thread demands great attention. Postecoglou is being taken to school by Premier League managers. Frankly, it's becoming unbearable to watch. Laughable.

Also frankly, I haven't given this issue great attention as of yet. So that I do not know the key problem. My hunch is that it is some sort of a lack of grit.

But NOT JUST lack of grit. Also a lack of smarts so that when Postecoglou attempts to apply the grit, it is misapplied which compounds the problem. That's my hunch.

After that, my next thoughts go to the keeper who does not appear to have sturdiness about himself.

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We lost against Woolwich because we didn't score any goals.

Conceding 1 goal shouldn't decide a game yet it did that day because of how we were in attack, not the method of their 1 goal necessarily.
Sure. But if that goal weren't conceded we'd have one more point, they'd have two points less, and the table would look different. And things like that can decide titles or Champions League qualifications.
 
Not necessarily. They clung on to a 1 goal lead. Had they not scored I expect they would've found another way to score later.
Yes. You could very well be very much correct. That is also very reasonable to suppose as a possibility. Counterfactuals are always tricky like that. But it is also possible that they wouldn't have found another way to score. And having been unable to clung onto a 1 goal lead (as you yourself write) they might as well had played a more attacking and open football. And in such a case it could very well had been the Spurs finding a way to score.
 
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Is this true? If so I didn't know it. Why not forward links with such stats?

Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for a while. What stuck in my mind was the way the game against Woolwich was lost, as well as the Villa game. I thought that was huge to drop points like that against Woolwich. I thought that was an easy goal for them. And the Villa goal was via the same sort of a formula. I thought it was a very cheap way to allow goals. Against Woolwich that was basically a tap-in header. Wasn't even a great header. And Villa was the same thing. It was a tap-in goal.
I would really like it if you would put your ratings in the Villa ratings thread. :rolleyes:
Incidentally, did you learn grammar at the same school as Notabadsquad ?
 
Is this true? If so I didn't know it. Why not forward links with such stats?

Admittedly, I've been out of the loop for a while. What stuck in my mind was the way the game against Woolwich was lost, as well as the Villa game. I thought that was huge to drop points like that against Woolwich. I thought that was an easy goal for them. And the Villa goal was via the same sort of a formula. I thought it was a very cheap way to allow goals. Against Woolwich that was basically a tap-in header. Wasn't even a great header. And Villa was the same thing. It was a tap-in goal.

Woolwich Villa only two we have conceded all season.
 
That was not unlucky against Villa. That was a system that many PL managers do. Guardiola did it recently with that corner kick winning goal in the last minute of the stoppage time that went to VAR but was approved (can't remember against who). Those were huge 3 points won by City. Arteta did it in that game and won another huge 3 points via the same thing. And now Emery's Villa did it too by scoring from the same thing. It's all by the same formula/system.

To me that stuff is extremely infuriating. Why bother playing a great game if you're gonna allow cheap goals from corner kicks? Personally, that's how I feel about it.

I don't know who else among the PL managers is doing that system. The above are the ones I've seen do it. I don't watch many Premier League games and I don't have time to look at how many different teams and managers do their set pieces when it comes to attacking and defending them. Also, game highlights rarely show well-defended set pieces. So that such data are not easy to even see. Suppose I would like to see how Spurs and Ipswich attack and defend set pieces. That information cannot be found in highlights. All one can see are snippets of such stuff and usually a very biased sort of snippets involving things that happen to become very exciting or close to exciting (i.e. chances).

But, lol, a careful, smart and prudent observer can learn almost everything indeed even from such snippets. 😉

It's nothing to do with a system. It's a good ball but Porro jumping as high as he can flicks it on. It then hits bents who can't react fast enough forcing Vic to make a good save.

Ball then drops perfectly for the Villa player stood on the line. Not a lot we can do about that one.
 
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