I think so many fans are anti levy that they'll just want the next manager to fail to! Hard to know who to trust on this thread. Some rotten agendas on here
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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?
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Might as well get Joe Biden or Liz Truss in. We could have Pep and we’d still fail. Club is rotten to the core. Cozy. Entitled. Privileged. Protected. And lazy. The TC bubble needs bursting.
Just give it to levy so he can sack himself
I wonder how Zidane would do at Spurs to be honest. Probably like Ancelotti at Everton. It doesn't matter what manager we get in though.I love Ledley as much as the next Spurs fan. But no chance it would turn out like Zidane
Agreed. If we'd got Slot, Tuchel, Maresca or Muhammad I'm ard Bruce Lee, we'd still be fucked.
Frank plays a 343 so in that system you could utilise all of our wide forwards. The squad now (depth/1st XI issues aside) is very versatile and could play a number of systems.
With Odobert he could potentially be converted into a wing back or as we see with City and some of the European sides, playing one natural wing back and one winger (in a wing back position) can work but that’s subject to having sufficient quality in your 3 centre backs and central midfield.
This poor guy has just got out of one shit show! He’s probably not ready for the sort of shit Spurs would bring him lol.
Playing 343 / similar doesn’t mean you have to play counter attacking football or sit deep… you can actually push further up the pitch like we saw with Pochettino. The issue with the system defensively, is we only have 3 senior centre backs. Davies can play there and gives his all but he’s neither quick or aerially dominant and likely to leave next summer.
I think they realize the system is insane and is just not going to work in any real competitive league.
We definitely do not have the roster to play a back three, and we just spent the last season and a half re-tooling our roster towards a back 4 style setup.
I do like Thomas Frank but I'm not really interested to go to a back 3.
That's true but I was talking about Thomas Frank and you only need to watch the Brentford Fulham game to see how that works.
We can only dream about the Poch defence. I look at our Back four and think they should be able to get to those levels but days like today - indeed months like the past months - I despair. Porro, Cuti, VDV and Udogie just can't seem to defend either as individuals or a collective. The high line has protected them from their defensive failings (or given them an excuse).
The only silver lining is that we shipped goals under Poch until it finally clicked.
The high line has exposed their frailties as individual defenders, and especially so when constantly playing in "all-hands-on-deck" type situations. It's horrific tactics- I know we'll have to agree to disagree on that but I need to say it again since you keep posting how terrible our defenders are. I don't think they are, or they are capable of much better, but the coach and tactics are all wrong.
Silva has done well but he's very dour and was a bit of a prick they way he went about leaving Watford for Everton (I think?)
I’m sure I heard ZZ refused to learn English when previously linked with Manure? Would be a bloody big issue lol
I get the argument of changing the manager doesn’t resolve anything while ENIC are in charge but that’s also like saying since we don’t sign stars, we’ll never achieve anything or progress. Now I’m not on about clubs lack of silverware here. We’ve signed promising players who weren’t ‘stars’ and we would never have thought Bale, Modric, Berbatov, Walker etc would have gone on to become some of the best in Europe. My point is, although we haven’t had much luck with managers post Pochettino, it doesn’t mean every new manager will fail.
Squad wise - there’s clear issues but whereas Jose and Conte needed players for a 343 and we didn’t provide them, Ange now has a squad that is very versatile. The issue with Ange is his tactics are crazy, he doesn’t play to his players strengths, he exposes their flaws and he’s beyond stubborn amongst other things.
There are managers out there who will get much more out of our current squad than we’re currently seeing with Ange.
We’ve 3 attack minded wing backs in Porro, Spence and Udogie who are being shoehorned into full back positions and then when they do get forward they spend most of their time tucking in and offering bugger all offensively.
Sarr, Bissouma and Bentancur are a decent trio of central midfielders and they’re supported by Gray and Bergvall. Yet we don’t play to their strengths.
Maddison can be very creative but the experiment with both him and Kulu didn’t work and also by tucking in Udogie and Porro, he has very little space to work in.
Solanke excels at holding the ball yet we rarely ever go long or look to pick him out with crosses.
Son’s a serious goal threat yet he’s sent to hug to the touchline.
There’s obviously other decent players in our squad but the above are just some examples of how we’re not playing to our strengths.
You say back four, yet all 3 of our full backs were wing backs.
The system is not that different from
if you can show me a single goal from Brighton, Palace or Ipswich games that was due to anything other than our defenders not defending well I'll agree with you.
But as all those goals were shipped from normal defensive situations around our 12 years box (not a high line breach or fullbacks caught out of position through "tactics") I just think the issue is not as simple as you do.
We score more than enough goals - it's time for the defenders to do their fucking jobs
I mean there's definitely a fine line and some overlap in those positions. Anyone is free to split hairs about who is a wing back or a full back, but for me:
Porro - Wing back
Udogie - Full back
Spence - Full back
Gray - CDM
Ben Davies - former FB turned LCB
What do you think?
It doesn't really bother me tbh as long as he can win games for us.