Well yes and even if he does it won't be now will it mateWhy. Because he said he had no intention of working for another English team in some emotional prezzie or interview?
Not buying it, sorry
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Well yes and even if he does it won't be now will it mateWhy. Because he said he had no intention of working for another English team in some emotional prezzie or interview?
Not buying it, sorry
He’s got a lot of strings to his bow ; a quick look at the wiki page yields .Yes, as it says on his Wikipedia page;
Following McKenna's arrival as Manchester United's under-18s manager, Indy Boonen, who was a teenage player for United at the time, praised McKenna by stating, "He changed everything. The way we trained was how the opponent played on the Saturday. If you played against West Brom, you trained how they are and focused on their weaknesses."
Something that we don't seem to be doing.
Well yes and even if he does it won't be now will it mate
An incredibly divisive character that will have had a monumental strop and alienated the squad within 18 months.Shadydan can you add Tuchel as an option. I seem to recall a bunch of members happily taking him over Ange. After tonight’s result he might be available on the cheap as well
Yes, as it says on his Wikipedia page;
Following McKenna's arrival as Manchester United's under-18s manager, Indy Boonen, who was a teenage player for United at the time, praised McKenna by stating, "He changed everything. The way we trained was how the opponent played on the Saturday. If you played against West Brom, you trained how they are and focused on their weaknesses."
Something that we don't seem to be doing.
TBF, I can't see the logic behind doing this at the U-18 level and seems to selfishly fit the manager's career needs much more than the players'. Surely the focus at the U-18 level is developing individual ability first, establishing the responsibilities and habits of a professional footballer second, learning the club's key tactical philosophies third, and actually winning matches fourth. No one gives a fuck about youth trophies, other than youth managers who want to point to them and prove they can win matches and deserve a senior management position.Yes, as it says on his Wikipedia page;
Following McKenna's arrival as Manchester United's under-18s manager, Indy Boonen, who was a teenage player for United at the time, praised McKenna by stating, "He changed everything. The way we trained was how the opponent played on the Saturday. If you played against West Brom, you trained how they are and focused on their weaknesses."
Something that we don't seem to be doing.
Is teaching players tactical sophistication, game management and the ability to exploit the weaknesses of their opponent not just as important for their future career as teaching them attacking patterns, technique, developing them phystically etc?TBF, I can't see the logic behind doing this at the U-18 level and seems to selfishly fit the manager's career needs much more than the players'. Surely the focus at the U-18 level is developing individual ability first, establishing the responsibilities and habits of a professional footballer second, learning the club's key tactical philosophies third, and actually winning matches fourth. No one gives a fuck about youth trophies, other than youth managers who want to point to them and prove they can win matches and deserve a senior management position.
We can / will drive ourselves mad with all this hypothesising ( on top of everything else we need to worry about in this life ) . But it’s becoming a real mind worm .Please stop this thread now!!
He ain't going before the end of the season, and at least THREE/FOUR of those names mentioned will be at new clubs over the Summer... So we'll be left with managers who no one else really wants!
Arnie Slot was my personal choice LAST season, and he'll either Pep it or Ten Hag it at Liverpool, nothing in between... so we'll wait and see.
Di Zerbi looks like being found out the same way people are fearing Ange has, so no real improvement there if he came to us... We'll be rumbled by Christmas again!
Thomas Franck is an interesting one (especially as he'd probably bring Toney with him) but the way Brentford played/time wasted at ours, would suggest his style isn't as pleasing on the eye as the world seems to THINK it is!!
Anyway, you've got ME speculating now...
It'll be Ange next season... Everything else is hypothetical speculation, as the thread title suggests!
My personal theory is Kieran McKenna in about 5 years time!
He'll be the British Pep one day!! ...and hopefully he'll do it with us!
I would suggest it's not as important as developing their abilities to play a specific position or positions and the general skill/tactics of that position, how to work and act as a professional footballer, and how the club they're aspiring to play for at the senior level seeks to play. It's important, but not as important, no.Is teaching players tactical sophistication, game management and the ability to exploit the weaknesses of their opponent not just as important for their future career as teaching them attacking patterns, technique, developing them phystically etc?
Well he's done well getting Ipswich promoted two years running, so there must be something about adjusting tactics according to the opposition.You're welcome to disagree but these "tactical" managers are not a good fit for us. These are tournament managers in the modern game. That's Mourinho, Tuchel, etc, imo. Those guys don't last long usually for a reason. Almost no consistently top modern manager manages in this way. Having a philosophy and confidence in your style of play helps players play with confidence and belief which seems to be one of the most important things. These hypercritical personalities tend to alienate players and when it goes bad it goes bad. We've tried the short-term success route and it didn't work. We are not set up as a club to succeed in this way.
You've got to pick your poison to some degree. Do you want to have confidence and belief in your style of play? Or do you want to go to Woolwich, park the bus, and try to nick a goal? Both CAN be successful, but you can't have both. I'd argue that one is more successful over the long term. The same people complaining about us not adjusting to the opposition also complain about us playing ugly football.
Also, you're naive if you don't think Ange can adjust tactically. BUT, especially in the early days, the team and the manager's commitment to philosophy and style is more important in the long term than trying to grind out an individual result. That's what we are going through. You've seen how sht we can look when we DON'T play with that confidence and belief. This doesn't come by accident. We saw it with Pep playing Claudio Bravo at Man City making mistakes all the time, Klopp playing a high line with Lovren, etc.
I think that youth players enjoy winning trophies. Also good performances will be noted by the first team coaches.No one gives a fuck about youth trophies, other than youth managers who want to point to them and prove they can win matches and deserve a senior management position.
Sean Dyche, Ryan Mason and Alan Partridge would be a dynamic trio that even the likes of Madrid, Bayern and City would be enormously jealous of!
Again, not saying it doesn't matter. But it's 4th priority at best, so tailoring your game plan week to week for individual opponents is really missing the point.I think that youth players enjoy winning trophies. Also good performances will be noted by the first team coaches.