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I have sussed it. Why don’t we enter 6 tournaments where we have maybe a 17% chance of winning each year. We will apparently be guaranteed to win a trophy every season
 
it doesn’t need to be both mate.

We can go hard for EL and Cups but still climb the table. People love the drama but we have been better than Wham and United this year despite our worst results in years. When we return to the mean in terms of results, we’ll probably be somewhere around 8th.

Off and on yeah, but I’ve been joking with a West Ham mate all season that it’s a race to the bottom between us and them. It’s just United have joined the party. We have probably edged it over them but would I bet on us getting our house in order and finishing above them? Probably but I wouldn’t put any money on it.
 
Off and on yeah, but I’ve been joking with a West Ham mate all season that it’s a race to the bottom between us and them. It’s just United have joined the party. We have probably edged it over them but would I bet on us getting our house in order and finishing above them? Probably but I wouldn’t put any money on it.
End of the day, we’ve been better in every metric and smashed them both when we’ve n played them.

I like what I’ve seen of Amorim but that Liverpool result flattered them. TAA basically giving out Christmas presents.

Things can change in football but I see our form starting to improve pretty quickly from here as January goes by
 
All these numbers are off though. The bookies on average seem to have us around 9/2 to win the Europa which is 18% chance, 8/1 for the Carabao which is 11% and FA Cup around 10/1 which is a 9% chance. Closer to about 33% chance of one of them happening. That seems generous given our form though.
 
All these numbers are off though. The bookies on average seem to have us around 9/2 to win the Europa which is 18% chance, 8/1 for the Carabao which is 11% and FA Cup around 10/1 which is a 9% chance. Closer to about 33% chance of one of them happening. That seems generous given our form though.
I took the odds off Paddy Power who has us 11/2 for the League cup so probably a lot more generous!
 
I actually think my initial logic wasn't too far off. The inverse outcome is 78%, 82% and 90% and all 3 of these need to come in for us to not win a trophy, so in this scenario you multiply all 3 by eachother and get 58%.

Therefore we have a 42% chance of winning a trophy according to the bookies. I think I'm right this time.

Disclaimer: This is not me saying we have a 42% chance. This is just the chance the bookies are giving us and some of their odds on us are quite generous.
Yeah this is it: 42% chance of not losing all three i.e winning 1 or more of them, going by the bookies' odds you mentioned.

My average was mostly bollocks, hands up! In my defence I was trying to look involved in a boring Teams call at the same time.

The bookies "probabilities" are too generous of course but that's another matter.
 
End of the day, we’ve been better in every metric and smashed them both when we’ve n played them.

I like what I’ve seen of Amorim but that Liverpool result flattered them. TAA basically giving out Christmas presents.

Things can change in football but I see our form starting to improve pretty quickly from here as January goes by

I think it’s 50 50 that happens, at best. But I live in hope.
 
Have you somehow managed to give us a 67% chance of winning a cup?

US?


A CUP?


IN OUR CURRENT STATE?
Stanley Cup Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
Have you somehow managed to give us a 67% chance of winning a cup?

US?


A CUP?


IN OUR CURRENT STATE?
No he hasn't. Here he is working out the odds of a hypothetical scenario that someone else created as a joke whereby we enter 6 different cup competitions where we have a 17% chance of winning each individual cup.

HOWEVER even the real-life scenario seems bonkers to me - the odds do indeed suggest that we have a 42% chance of winning at least 1 of the 3 that we are still in! I would have thought that was less than 20%! Does anyone know of a very simple online bookie where i can lay this exact bet at those sort of odds? I'd happily lay it with a few hundred quid at those odds - if we win a cup, I'm a few hundred quid down but won't care because we won a cup, whereas if we fail, which let's be honest we all expect to, then I'm a few hundred quid up to drown my sorrows!

EDIT: Apparently Bet365 are offering 1.44 (about 70%) on us not winning a trophy, so 30% that we will, considerably lower than the 42% above (and in any case I can't seem to find it on the Bet365 website - does anyone know what section it would be in?)
EDIT2: Aha, found it! I'd definitely take it at 42%, but even at 30% it's tempting...
 
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I see the biased Howard Webb instead of issuing us an apology for a blatant hand ball. Has backed the ref. Ange should have gone to town on the ref’s especially since there was also the refusal to issue Dan Burn a 2nd yellow. The fact is Ange refusing to ever say anything when refs make bad decisions against us does not protect us and he is failing to do his job in this aspect too.
 
I see the biased Howard Webb instead of issuing us an apology for a blatant hand ball. Has backed the ref. Ange should have gone to town on the ref’s especially since there was also the refusal to issue Dan Burn a 2nd yellow. The fact is Ange refusing to ever say anything when refs make bad decisions against us does not protect us and he is failing to do his job in this aspect too.

A complete waste of space!

You can just imagine what Jose or Conte would’ve done but no he’s completely passive resulting in officials giving us the thin edge of the wedge!

He just stands there on the touchline with his arms folded scowling at nobody in particular!

Doesn’t consider giving our players encouragement or advice!!
But probably not capable after Plan A has failed!
 
I see the biased Howard Webb instead of issuing us an apology for a blatant hand ball. Has backed the ref. Ange should have gone to town on the ref’s especially since there was also the refusal to issue Dan Burn a 2nd yellow. The fact is Ange refusing to ever say anything when refs make bad decisions against us does not protect us and he is failing to do his job in this aspect too.
This is actually my biggest criticism of Ange: I get why he doesn’t want to debase himself like Arteta, but the team suffers as a result. NWHL must be the only stadium in the country where the away team consistently get the benefit of the doubt.
 
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