I thought he was poor tbh. His decision-making frustrates the hell out of me.
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A draw is still two points dropped. Not exactly something to celebrate, especially when you're playing weaker opposition.
awfully good of him to detach his head from his own arse long enough to grace us with that insight.We're so lucky to have your insight, brave seer.
Now you're just making sharp turns to try and reach your destination of "Frank is shit". lol
Whatever, fella.
You do you.
See, there you go again. Telling people, you’re shit, I’m better than you. I have a better understanding than you..
Why do you feel this pressing need to judge and correct others? Does being condescending and arrogant give you a sense of superiority that replaces your physical decline?
Is this a productive way to spend your last years on our planet? I doubt it.
After a strong start, he's clearly struggling. Last year it was all about injured players - Ange was the real problem. Frank has to prove he can turn this around without our strongest squad. If he can't, he's not top-tier.
lol get in the bin.
Okay then, I will sent a message to Frank...
Don't bother coming back from behind, it upsets Spursfan76, he would rather lose 3 points.
You're clearly so far behind the guy that you can't even admit we're not playing well right now. I remember last season - when people are that blindly behind a manager, they just refuse to see what's actually happening on the pitch.
"turn around" 4th in the league and 4 points from 6 in the CL.
Shit like this is why I hate the internet and twatter/X in particular, online "personalities" have been spewing their servile "hot takes" for attention for so fucking long it has leaked into broadcasting and football discourse in general. We are not blowing away every team 8-0 and Xavi and Kudus aren't flanking our wings to the same standard as prime Bale and Ronaldo so therefore the manager is a fraud and the project is a failure.
It's such a transparent attempt to be able to say "I told you so" in 6 months time if things go shitbang, and due to the temporary nature of managers in football you are sure to be able to say it eventually if you hang on long enough.
You don't sound so sure yourself. I might already be proven right in six months - though I don't think it'll take that long. The table could look very different in a month or two. It's far too early to be talking about Frank's “success.”
Far too early to talk about his failure by the same token and yet here you are predicting his downfall like some kind of Lidl brand Nostradamus.
Should have said we were favourite to win then. Anyway, like I said we'll revisit at the end of December. If we don't improve hugely by then, we're in deep shit. It's the toughest part of our fixture list. Like it or not, this has been a very favorable schedule so far and we've not exactly inspired. Should win was perhaps the wrong choice of words, you're correct.
1 loss is looking at the performances without context. We've been dull and flat in every one. There's nothing being knitted together. It's bad. If he turns it around and we start playing nice football and look like we have an idea of what to do, I'll happily hold up my hands and say I was worried too soon. Very much hope that's the case. I'm just struggling to see that big of an improvement. I was impressed against City, against PSG and Burnley. The rest of the games we've looked meh to poor. Even West Ham we really struggled until they fell asleep at the back post and got a red.
If you've seen good cohesive football in any of our recent games, please point it out. We don't play any nice patterns, no quick anything. It's get the ball around the middle, pass backwards and get it out wide.
We've had very favourable fixtures so far. I don't see the kind of play we saw today - or against Wolves - doing anything against stronger opposition.
Like City you mean?
You go back into the history of our teams and at a very basic level expected of a Tottenham player especially in midfield and forward areas is a level of technical quality. I'm not even talking world class levels but the ability to pass and control a ball. Heck you'd expect that from a pro. And yet I've watched a lot of teams over the past few years pop the ball around us so much better than we are able to.
I said to my dad watching the game, it reminded me of when we both went to Switzerland to watch us play Young Boys in Bern on a plastic pitch in our first ever CL match. We were 3-0 down inside the first 30 minutes. Redknapp saw it needed a level of quality in midfield. On comes Tom Huddlestone and the game changed but still wasn't enough and only lost 3-2.
I'd kill to watch Hudd passing the ball in midfield now. Football has changed so much now that with all the extra pressing teams are going for athletes instead of people with ability on the ball. Still doesn't excuse the fact that we recently have signed a bunch of players that couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass 3 yards to a teammate.
Vicario, how on gods green earth with the amount of time he spends on a training pitch not be able to kick a ball. All he needs to do is spend 20 minutes every day with a bag of footballs and practice kicking. The guy can't even get a clean contact on it. You could find a better GK who can kick on a bobbly pitch in Hackney Marshes.
I've been saying for a long time, our squads in recent years have severely lacked footballing quality. No amount of tactics from any manager will make up for that.
I said to my dad watching the game, it reminded me of when we both went to Switzerland to watch us play Young Boys in Bern on a plastic pitch in our first ever CL match. We were 3-0 down inside the first 30 minutes. Redknapp saw it needed a level of quality in midfield. On comes Tom Huddlestone and the game changed but still wasn't enough and only lost 3-2.
I'd kill to watch Hudd passing the ball in midfield now. Football has changed so much now that with all the extra pressing teams are going for athletes instead of people with ability on the ball. Still doesn't excuse the fact that we recently have signed a bunch of players that couldn't trap a bag of cement or pass 3 yards to a teammate.
Vicario, how on gods green earth with the amount of time he spends on a training pitch not be able to kick a ball. All he needs to do is spend 20 minutes every day with a bag of footballs and practice kicking. The guy can't even get a clean contact on it. You could find a better GK who can kick on a bobbly pitch in Hackney Marshes.
I've been saying for a long time, our squads in recent years have severely lacked footballing quality. No amount of tactics from any manager will make up for that.
I'm not saying sack him. I'm saying I'm concerned by what I've been watching over the last few weeks. I'll be delighted if he turns the attack around and we look capable of controlling a game. I'd be ecstatic actually. I like Frank, seems like a good guy, but I'm worried for things to come.
The irony is that in Ange's first season we were all marvelling at how much better on the ball Vic was compared to Lloris.