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Nothing short of criminal mismanagement to go into EL without registering Spence. This means we are guaranteed to run one of Udogie and Porro into the ground every Thursday. And god forbid VDV goes down again. Simply an utterly baffling and insane decision.

Fucking done with this shit. Just amateur mismanagement. The only way we’ll be able to get rotation for them is in the PL now.
 
UEFA SQUAD

NHGCT
1VICARIO1AUSTIN
2PORRO2WHITEMAN
3UDOGIE
4ROMEROASSOCIATION
5DRAGUSIN1FORSTER
6VDV2DAVIES
7BISSOUMA3MADDISON
8SARR4JOHNSON
9BENTANCUR5SOLANKE
10WERNER6GRAY
11KULUSEVSKI
12SON
13RICHARLISON
14BERGVALL
15ODOBERT
 
Nothing short of criminal mismanagement to go into EL without registering Spence. This means we are guaranteed to run one of Udogie and Porro into the ground every Thursday. And god forbid VDV goes down again. Simply an utterly baffling and insane decision.

Fucking done with this shit. Just amateur mismanagement. The only way we’ll be able to get rotation for them is in the PL now.
3 keepers as cover, one fullback and thats Davies. I know Gray can play there but just seems crazy.
 
3 keepers as cover, one fullback and thats Davies. I know Gray can play there but just seems crazy.

Two of those keepers are free tbf

We wouldn't have been able to register Spence even if we didn't register Austin and Whiteman.

I would have most definitely picked Spence over Forster though. But I imagine Ange trusts Forster more. Let's not forget Ange has fucked Spence off on loan twice, and in one of those he was sent back early due to attitude.
 
Two of those keepers are free tbf

We wouldn't have been able to register Spence even if we didn't register Austin and Whiteman.

I would have most definitely picked Spence over Forster though. But I imagine Ange trusts Forster more. Let's not forget Ange has fucked Spence off on loan twice, and in one of those he was sent back early due to attitude.
True on the club trained keepers but if there is so little trust in Spence then he shouldn't be here.
 
Quite possibly, but again if he's shite he should have been moved on. Forster is no shining light either and in the last year of his contract. Just feels any attempt at bridge building with Spence both ways has probably now gone yet we're stuck with him until January.
I would have fucked Spence off a year ago, but he’ll probably end up on loan somewhere until we can offload him. Awful signing really, he’s been a waste of space.
 
I don’t think this is a debate about whether “we” think Spence is good enough.

That fact he’s not been loaned out and kept arpund combined with no full back cover being signed strongly indicates that Ange thinks he’s good enough.

So with that in mind it’s nothing short of batshit to exclude him from the EL squad where he’d be useful ahead of a fair few other squad players in positions we’re stocked in.
 
Seems like a missed opportunity to me, bedding in alongside Moore, Lankshear, Gray and Bergvall. Just have to trust the manager's judgement on him. Keep going Djed!
 
No Spence. Seems very odd to leave him out instead of Forster.

Agreed very odd, not the decision I'd have made - must mean Ange trusts Forster to play GK if Vicario is injured, and is happy with a variety of alternatives to cover LB and RB such as Gray and Davies if Spence cannot be fitted into the squad due to limitation on numbers.

I think the other interesting question is who Ange picks in his List B (which can be nominated the day before any EL match - certainties look like Lankshear and Moore with other possibilities maybe being Dorringrton (CB), Hall (CM), Black (AM/RB) .....
 
FBs going to be run into the ground. Very odd with regards to Spence imo especially after a sub appearance already and did ok.
Two injuries in that backline again and we are fucked in every competetion.
 
What if we had bought more players as some wanted who else would have been left out? A new LWB or Cb would have replaced Davies who covers 2 positions. But what about a new winger or midfielder. The academy simply has not being producing top class players in the past since Kane. Winks and Skipp were the best that played and how many wanted them to be still here? We could have kept Skipp just for Europa but I cannot recall anyone complaining when he was sold.
 
What if we had bought more players as some wanted who else would have been left out? A new LWB or Cb would have replaced Davies who covers 2 positions. But what about a new winger or midfielder. The academy simply has not being producing top class players in the past since Kane. Winks and Skipp were the best that played and how many wanted them to be still here? We could have kept Skipp just for Europa but I cannot recall anyone complaining when he was sold.

Poch had a policy of not loaning players out or giving hem minutes in the first team in the correct position for them - about the only exception to that was Winks , and Walker-Peters played about 6 times in 3 seasons with 2 MOTM performances yet was hardly used and therefore never developed hence his exit to Southampton for the sake of his career. We could do with a club trained (ie not taking up an unused squad place) RB/LB as cover for those positions now .....

And the lack of pathway to first team is why Madueke (£35m+ to Chelsea) our u16 captain declined a scholarship at Spurs to join a club with the first team opportunities. And sadly he wasn;t the only top youngster we lost.

It takes at least 5 years to develop a player through the academy - and probably 50% of our academy join between ages of 8 to age 12 - which is why we are still suffering from the Poch era with a lack of youth part developed for later managers to use (worthwhile remembering that at the start of Poch's reign he sold many of he youngsters he had 'inherited' from previous managers development such as Townsend, Carroll, Veljkovic, Pritchard and a number of others, raising £100m to spend on Sissoko and other experienced players he wanted ..... but left successor managers no part developed academy youngsters,

Mourhino was surprisingly good for youth - sent Skipp on his season loan to Norwich, gave Devine and Scarlett (and a few others) their first team debuts - but was only at Spurs for 18 months and really needed to make may changes to Spurs youth organisation (later changed by Paritici a few years later).

Conte was a disaster for Spurs youth - classic stories being his reduced to field Skipp and Sarr as CM's v AC Milan due to injuries, yet despite being hailed ss MOTM, never played for him afterwards and that he regularly broke up youth training sessions with no notice to use the youngsters as ball boys and traffic cones. Not surprisingly enthusiasm and hope was at an all time low by the time Conte left.

Paratici made a lot of organisational and policy type changes to Spurs youth - for example raising academy player wages to same level as most clubs (except Man City and Chelsea), one of the reasons why we lost 2 of our best prospects 2 years ago, and the changes allowed us to keep hold of Mikey Moore who was much admired by a few top clubs - and that has continued under Lange. Ange has a number of youngsters coming through, after a barren period, and a huge opportunity to help develop them - albeit as always not very player is good enough or is a good fit for Ange.

Skipp was injured in his 2nd last game playing for Norwich and has never reached the heights he did playing for Spurs youth or Norwich since, almost certainly not helped by Conte ignoring him for 2 seasons. Probably right fir his own career to move on, and IMO by 2025/26 several other Spurs youth will be taking his Club Trained squad place - whether that will be Devine, Lankshear or who else is up to Ange
 
Two of those keepers are free tbf

We wouldn't have been able to register Spence even if we didn't register Austin and Whiteman.

I would have most definitely picked Spence over Forster though. But I imagine Ange trusts Forster more. Let's not forget Ange has fucked Spence off on loan twice, and in one of those he was sent back early due to attitude.
If we had not named Forster then Spence could have been included. Why include Forster (who is past it now) when you have Austin as the 2nd choice? Or, why give Austin a 5 year contract if he is not 2nd choice? Spence coudl have covered RB and LB.
 
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