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Transfers Summer 2016 Transfer Window Thread

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Any sponsorship deal is a contract - doubt his lawyers would be that clueles as to have a deal based on appearances

Do you mean matches, how he looks, or both? Because there's no way a player could just stop playing football, devote his life to pie eating, and still get paid for advertising sports equipment. I appreciate I've exaggerated to make a point, but if it reflects unfavourably on Nike they'll pull it.
 
Any sponsorship deal is a contract - doubt his lawyers would be that clueles as to have a deal based on appearances

The basic apparel sponsorship contract is likely not based on appearances (Götze signed for 10 years with Nike in 2012 for the largest sponsorship fee in German history), but these types of contracts are also heavy in incentives based on additional appearances at major tournaments, promotional events, TV advertising spots, etc. I'm sure that as long as he's on a team somewhere, he's going to get his base fee from Nike. He's still going to lose a million euros a year or more in those additional sponsorship fees and add-ons though.

I don't think it's penetrated the English speaking world, but Götze is a fucking mega-star in the German speaking world. He's the face of Nike in the country (where Adidas is king and so Nike has to push him heavily to try and balance that), he's on every ad board in every sporting goods store and he's literally one of the 3-5 most famous people in the country (I mean, he scored the goal that won the freaking World Cup after all). He's 24 years old and has 59 caps for Germany, for fuck's sake - he's been a superstar on a national level since he was 17 years old.

He needs to be playing, and he needs to be playing at a high profile situation. Inside or outside of Germany doesn't matter that much, but there's a lot of money riding on him actually being on a pitch (both for him and for Nike). If he's not going to be first choice for Bayern, then he's going to force himself out (and Bayern seems happy to push him to the door as well).
 
The basic apparel sponsorship contract is likely not based on appearances (Götze signed for 10 years with Nike in 2012 for the largest sponsorship fee in German history), but these types of contracts are also heavy in incentives based on additional appearances at major tournaments, promotional events, TV advertising spots, etc. I'm sure that as long as he's on a team somewhere, he's going to get his base fee from Nike. He's still going to lose a million euros a year or more in those additional sponsorship fees and add-ons though.

I don't think it's penetrated the English speaking world, but Götze is a fucking mega-star in the German speaking world. He's the face of Nike in the country (where Adidas is king and so Nike has to push him heavily to try and balance that), he's on every ad board in every sporting goods store and he's literally one of the 3-5 most famous people in the country (I mean, he scored the goal that won the freaking World Cup after all). He's 24 years old and has 59 caps for Germany, for fuck's sake - he's been a superstar on a national level since he was 17 years old.

He needs to be playing, and he needs to be playing at a high profile situation. Inside or outside of Germany doesn't matter that much, but there's a lot of money riding on him actually being on a pitch (both for him and for Nike). If he's not going to be first choice for Bayern, then he's going to force himself out (and Bayern seems happy to push him to the door as well).

I read he keeps pissing Bayern off by wearing Nike gear to their Adidas promotions?
 
And it's not just Nike - Beats by Dre TV ads in Germany? They star Götze.



Advertisement for Samsung TV's? Götze.

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And the list goes on and on. There's a huge machine behind him that has to be fed. He's just worth too damn much money to too many people to sit the bench in Munich.
 
And it's not just Nike - Beats by Dre TV ads in Germany? They star Götze.



Advertisement for Samsung TV's? Götze.

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And the list goes on and on. There's a huge machine behind him that has to be fed. He's just worth too damn much money to too many people to sit the bench in Munich.

My personal favourite is one I saw on holiday in Germany for Media Markt...



Fucking shameless.
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Oh, and Klopp's weird adverts for alcohol free beer:

 
I think Gotze has scored something like 34 goals in three seasons, one season he spent time out injured. In that time he has a shitload of assists. Poch can get the best out of him just like he has done with Lamela, Dembele, Dier, Rose and Walker. Hell even Kane.

Gotze in my opinion would be worth every penny and is a player above the level that we already have at the Club.
Your opinion. Mine is that he has gone from a true potential worldbeater into a lardy cunt. He was woefully bad & unfit in the euros- it's there for anyone to see. Hardly put himself in the shop window did he? When you say "worth every penny", is that regardless of cost? Would you fling £25 million at him plus £5 million a year in wages?
Did you read the Bayern version of TFC that Joe Clash Joe Clash posted? Their own fans would swap Gotze to us PLUS money- for Dier. Suggests to me that he isn't a level above players we already have. Oppo fans usually have a decent take on the players they have. As do the management. Why is everyone so keen to get rid of him?
 
Team achievements are not player achievements. The notion that we're playing for experience is one I consider dubious, since we already have players who've won multiple titles. He is talented, no one is denying that. He's on big wages because he's at Bayern Munich, and that's how they recruit everyone from other clubs (seriously, they basically double the salary you can get at any other German club).

Pedigree means fuck all. And I fail to see how someone like Christian Eriksen, who isn't on 120k, but who does what we'd ask Mario to do, and does it better than Mario has in at least 2 or 3 seasons, would be thrilled at the idea of someone coming in and getting paid much more to essentially be his back-up.

I'm almost as much a numbers guy as you mate. We can agree fine that any number of stats specific to the player would be more important than team achievements, he's been a part of, in choosing a transfer target and setting a max, you're willing to pay said player. But we're in the minority amongst fans, and though Poch and others at most clubs will base their transfer dealing on player stats, it's the same with players. They're most likely told their key numbers in various areas, but their measuring stick at the end of the day is trophies.

We can agree as far as, we shouldn't sign him based on what trophies, he's won (and we won't), and we shouldn't be handing him 120k unless he's judged good enough to win a starting spot now or very soon (and we won't).

So given that we're imho only going to sign him if he ticks the right boxes for Poch and (probably even more so) Mitchell with those fancy numbers, you love, enough so to be at the same level as Eriksen now or soon. Then my simple point is that 100-120k is okay by Eriksen and the rest of the squad, because he - league winners in our squad now or not - ticks more of the boxes that players focus on, ie. trophies.
 
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