Come on Juve!!!
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Come on Juve!!!
I wasn't aware that sarcasm had been outlawed?
I'm happy with our owners I think they've done a good job since taking over and we're still growing.... Can they improve... Sure. I don't believe in perfection.
On the other hand, your colours are tagged to the mast..... You'll likely walk away if ENIC don't have a big spend up.
No but we can say “fuck it, Eriksen is shit but at least no one else wants him”I get it. So when our rivals celebrate Champions league titles, Europa league titles, Premier League titles and even FA cups, we can stick two fingers up and say
fuck your titles and your trophies, we got the most expensive training centre in the world.
There is so much wrong with this post but I am going to respond anyway to clarify my position.
I NEVER SAID ENIC or Levy are useless, quite the opposite, I have said that they have been fantastic owners and that we are victims of our own success, Levy is a great businessman and I am forever grateful for the infrastructure and stadium they have built and for the continued growth underneath them since taking over.
However, where I disagree with you is that Levy and ENIC are "the club" or that we desperately need them to continue growing, that simply isn't true at all, irrespective of what they have done up to this point.
I also never said that spurs fans are fed up overall, I said that spurs fans are fed up of falling short in regards to winning trophies and fed up with our transfer policy, it's never been a better time to be a spurs supporter, I know that better than anybody after 30+ years of supporting us but does that mean we should just settle and be happy and content with where we are? Never want for more? Just be happy that we are finally qualifying for the CL on a regular basis and maybe occasionally we will get a shot at a trophy?
Do you think our manager thinks like that? Because every interview I have seen from him says otherwise, he wants us to be the best club in the world, what you are essentially saying is "It's never been a better time to support spurs so be happy with what you have and if you don't like it, fuck off and support a team that buys trophies" do you not see how reductive that is?
You're essentially saying to just accept that we will never be anything more than we currently are, which I refuse to accept because I want us to be the best club in the world, I think it's healthy to have that sort of ambition for this football club, if we all just accepted that this is it then what would be the fucking point in watching football?
And no, the answer isn't to just go and support some other team and watch them win trophy after trophy because I dont love other teams, I love spurs and I want us to be that football club, I have always wanted us to be that club that and I always will, that doesn't mean if we fail to do it I will love this club any less, it just means that I want the best for this club and for us to always strive to be better and show more ambition.
i dont think its being frugal.
Its spending the money in a way that makes it more likely that any success is sustainable in the long term, because its on infrastructure. but that doesn't necessarily mean its going to be on the field success in the short term. The money is still being spent. just not necessarily where a few people want it spent. its like the analogy about teaching a man to fish.
No club should be borrowing money to pay transfer fees or wages. and they are no longer allowed, which is right and proper, IMO.
New challenge is not going back to Juventus.
Complains about Levy not spending.
Complains about record transfer.
...Because someone(*) began measuring our spending against WEST HAM.
(*Someone who last summer preached that we should "fear" them because of their spending....)
The discontents are all but demanding £70m players; yet heralding WH and the like for taking a bunch of £20m punts. I'm sure you see the flaw in that....
300,000 thousand a week to watch Pogba dab and then waste another chance.
Juve what is you doing?
Yeah, probably, because you know after 30+ years of supporting spurs I would just walk away...
What's with this black and white viewpoint on shit? You're basically saying people can't criticise our owners if they fail to spend in the transfer window or get good business done? lol.
Is there any scenario in your mind where Levy or ENIC should be held accountable?
I am also happy with our owners, I never claimed otherwise, I have simply said that if we don't find a way to operate so we can compete with the clubs above us financially then we will likely remain as we are for the remainder of their tenure, that doesn't mean I would stop supporting the club if that was the case, I would be here even if we were relegated multiple times but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be disappointed or see it as a huge missed opportunity for us to push on even more.
....But if we can't "compete financially" then what do you propose? ....FFS, this isn't high level maths at play here!?!?!?
Withdrawing your support is the most substantial comment you've offered on the matter so far.
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Of course. Unlike many, I don't hold myself up a scouting or tactics expert.
Fair. I came in half way through so wasn’t aware of that. It is a struggle to read every post on here unless you have no life outside TFC.
But yes, spending is good. Spending on dreck is not.
Well as far as maybe's go... .You might be right.
What I'm slightly baffled by tho is the notion that somehow we can't spend prime dosh on AWB (who had a great season) at RB, yet are no-one blinks an eye at us splashing £50m-odd on Ryan 'maybe' Sessngon LB.
Innevitably, we'll see how things pan out... That's for obvs.
Sorry. I meant it as Pogba goes to Real.
Juve come calling for Eriksen
I've explained the alternative plenty of times, you just don't like the reality of our situation and choose to rehash the same whinge over and over again instead....
If we can't afford X we won't spend X and we(*) push on regardless....
(*Well except the likes of you andAtomic knob .... As you've both conceeded, ya'll will probably sack the club off if you don't gte your pony.)
You have never explained the alternative, unless your alternative is "Well if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen and we just accept it"
That's not an alternative, that's defeatism.
When have I ever said that? You really do love misquoting people and putting words in their mouth.
For someone who talks about strawman arguments you sure so like to engage in them a lot.
Please quote me and tell me where I have ever said I would leave the club if we don't get any transfers?
Will I be pissed off? Yes. Will I complain and say that we need to find new owners? Yeah, probably because it would be fucking criminal to not sign players after our best manager in my lifetime is essentially begging for signings and we are on the cusp of something truly special.
But if Poch left and we did a freefall down the table whilst Levy and ENIC remained in charge I would still be here supporting this club regardless, even if we didn't sign another player for 20 fucking years because I support and love the club.
The owners, players and manager all come and go.
No, I just find your incessant hollow whinging tiresome... Esp. as you've as good as admitted that your fandom depends on a spend up.
...And I wasn't going to bat for anyone. Your comments condoned his position on the matter and your lack of self-awareness 'amused' me (and still does).
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Yes, me, billion pound football stadiums do not impact results on a football pitch mate.
The only way they do is if the extra revenue from that stadium goes into improving the football team, do you disagree with that?
OK thanks.... Took a week off. Figured late night tear ups on here wasn't entirely the way forward....
Evidently tho', old habbits die hard.
I don't know why comments like that are ridiculed , Levy hasn't built the stadium for the fans he's built it to generate greater revenue , the additional revenue will be greater than the repayments. It's a sign of ambition but what sort of ambition ? To make more money for himself or to make more money to improve the playing staff or both.