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YOU suggested as much.

As for the latter comment; you're having an absolute fucking laugh!!!!

You've made your position perfectly clear already.... Soft-soaping it all retrospectively doesn't change the underlying thrust of it all.

Are you going to just keep repeating that or are you going to show me where I said that? Show me the evidence.

I have NEVER SAID or suggested anything of the fucking sort mate, that's absolute bollocks, I would never walk away from this club, that is your own confirmation bias twisting your view of things.

Me criticising the way we do business in the transfer window does not = me saying I will walk away if we fail to sign anybody, that's you viewing the conversation through a lens of emotion rather than logic.

All I have said this entire time is that if we want to compete in the way our manager wants us to compete then we have to match the spending of the teams above us and get the signings he wants, what part of that suggests I would walk away?

I would support spurs regardless of what happens, READ WHAT I WRITE.

I am not soft soaping anything, you wonder why called you an insufferable bore, this is why, you keep repeating the same bullshit despite it having no truth to it whatsoever, it's like having a discussion with a child.

My position has been clear all along, let me make it perfectly clear so you understand it completely, read the bolded for future reference instead of perceiving things in your own way.

I think our transfer policy needs to improve, I want our manager to be backed because he is the best manager we have had in my lifetime, if we want to truly compete for the league and CL on a continuous basis we have to match the spending of those above us and "change the project" as our manager has said, how we do that, I don't know, I don't even know if it's financially possible but that, imo, is what needs to happen.

I don't dislike Levy or ENIC, they are good owners, I am thankful for everything they have done for this club up until this point and irrespective of what happens in the transfer window, if Poch stays or goes or if we drop into league 2 I will still love and support this club until the day I die.

But that doesn't mean I will just accept everything and have a defeatist attitude, I love this club and I want more for us, I want more ambition, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that as far as I am concerned.


That's how I feel, so from now on, going forward, when you engage with me in a discussion, remember what I have just wrote instead of putting things together in your own mind about me, you would know all this already anyway if you had paid any attention whatsoever to posts I have written before now.
 

Sorry Poch
Same old stuff every year:

Need to be different
Everything’s great
See if we can still compete
Difficult to sign players
Don’t expect players
Would like players
Other clubs spend more
We are brilliant without spending
Must operate differently to compete
But we’re good enough anyway

:dier:
 
I don't know why comments like that are ridiculed , Levy hasn't built the stadium for the fans he's built it to generate greater revenue , the additional revenue will be greater than the repayments. It's a sign of ambition but what sort of ambition ? To make more money for himself or to make more money to improve the playing staff or both.

Fair that.

Fact is, we don't know yet. Yet some insist they already do.

I think it's safe to say tho our increased revenue doesn't magically afford us the ability to not seek value within the market, skip any negotiations relating to trf fees or make clubs sell before they're ready.

The market doesn't suddenly revolve around us just cos we have an estimated extra 50m per year in our back pocket.

What's more, lets say we do end up having a spend up this summer.... Expecting it to be a benchmark for every window is more than a little naive too.
 

Sorry Poch

"The other day I saw a stat, in the last ten years in England and Europe, how the teams were spending money and I think we were on the bottom. Yes, in Europe, England and Europe.

"Of course we are doing a fantastic job, but if we want to be real contenders we need to operate in a different way in the future."

Poch essentially saying what I am saying but you know, I am being unrealistic.

Airfixx Airfixx ? Care to share your thoughts?
 
I understand the need to make wise moves but 18 months of no investment in the squad warrants at least going all in on a much needed player.

Hopefully we do, signing Ndombele and Lo Celso would be huge and would definitely remove the scepticism around Levy and ENIC and show people if they truly want to push this team forward to winning trophies.

I don't think anybody doubts their ability to make money, I just think, supporters like myself want to know if that's their only interest in this club, know what I mean?
 
"The other day I saw a stat, in the last ten years in England and Europe, how the teams were spending money and I think we were on the bottom. Yes, in Europe, England and Europe.

"Of course we are doing a fantastic job, but if we want to be real contenders we need to operate in a different way in the future."

Poch essentially saying what I am saying but you know, I am being unrealistic.

Airfixx Airfixx ? Care to share your thoughts?

It’s self explanatory.
What it doesn’t take into account though is that it was Pochettino’s mistakes which arguably cost us being champions of Europe, not the transfer window.
 
There is so much wrong with this post but I am going to respond anyway to clarify my position.

I NEVER SAID ENIC or Levy are useless, quite the opposite, I have said that they have been fantastic owners and that we are victims of our own success, Levy is a great businessman and I am forever grateful for the infrastructure and stadium they have built and for the continued growth underneath them since taking over.

However, where I disagree with you is that Levy and ENIC are "the club" or that we desperately need them to continue growing, that simply isn't true at all, irrespective of what they have done up to this point.

I also never said that spurs fans are fed up overall, I said that spurs fans are fed up of falling short in regards to winning trophies and fed up with our transfer policy, it's never been a better time to be a spurs supporter, I know that better than anybody after 30+ years of supporting us but does that mean we should just settle and be happy and content with where we are? Never want for more? Just be happy that we are finally qualifying for the CL on a regular basis and maybe occasionally we will get a shot at a trophy?

Do you think our manager thinks like that? Because every interview I have seen from him says otherwise, he wants us to be the best club in the world, what you are essentially saying is "It's never been a better time to support spurs so be happy with what you have and if you don't like it, fuck off and support a team that buys trophies" do you not see how reductive that is?

You're essentially saying to just accept that we will never be anything more than we currently are, which I refuse to accept because I want us to be the best club in the world, I think it's healthy to have that sort of ambition for this football club, if we all just accepted that this is it then what would be the fucking point in watching football?

And no, the answer isn't to just go and support some other team and watch them win trophy after trophy because I dont love other teams, I love spurs and I want us to be that football club, I have always wanted us to be that club that and I always will, that doesn't mean if we fail to do it I will love this club any less, it just means that I want the best for this club and for us to always strive to be better and show more ambition.

Good post .... I'll take you at your words .... maybe you just need a bit more patience .... we only moved into our new stadium three months ago, take a breath and see how the first season in our new home plays out, sure it would be better to go there having added 200m to the squad, but if we can't we'll still give it our best shot ... Poch ain't going anywhere, five more years minimum !!!!!!!
 
Good post .... I'll take you at your words .... maybe you just need a bit more patience .... we only moved into our new stadium three months ago, take a breath and see how the first season in our new home plays out, sure it would be better to go there having added 200m to the squad, but if we can't we'll still give it our best shot ... Poch ain't going anywhere, five more years minimum !!!!!!!

Well I assure you I was speaking honestly, I admit my passion gets the better of me when it comes to spurs but it's because I love the club so much, that's probably why I worry during transfer windows.

The truth is though, my lack of patience this window is kind of tied to us moving into the new ground, I feel like right now we will never have a better time to invest in the squad, coming off the back end of a CL final and moving into a brand new world class stadium, needing investment in the squad that could push us on to the next level.

It feels like a pivotal moment for the club, hence my anxiety and lack of patience around it tbh.
 
I know you “couldn’t give a toss if people disagree” but surely the point of a discussion is to ‘give a toss’ about other’s views and, as in this case, to try to understand why no-one agrees with you? Repeating yourself 50 times irrespective of what other people think isn’t having a discussion.
But Rutland plenty of you are repeating yourself in saying you disagree with him. Hopefully you don't repeat yourself on this point.
 
Fair enough. I just resent the insinuation that i condone such comments.

I've had ill health (death) wished upon me here recently. I don't recall the cavalry coming to my rescue, mind.....

Will I certainly would have stood up for you if someone would have said something as disgusting as that.

But you come across as condoning them when you are conflating those comments with me "throwing jabs" at you in the past, me calling you an insufferable bore and him telling me to kill myself aren't anywhere near the same thing.

Sorry if I am interpreting that incorrectly but it felt that way to me.
 
You just twist and turn the narrative to suit whatever you want, anybody here is free to go through my posts and disprove you argument at this point, as a matter of fact, I welcome them to.

I am not playing the "humble card" I am always open to others opinions and listening, as a matter of fact Park Lane Mark Twain Park Lane Mark Twain made a very reasonable and well thought out post that I thought was articulated well and was polite, I still disagreed with the majority of it but I respectfully disagreed.

It's hard to do that with you air because you continue to just try and cunt me off and take what I say out of context without ever addressing the points I make and then claim I said things I haven't said, so when I call you an insufferable bore or I reach my peak and call you a cunt it's normally directed at the way in which you are constantly reframing my words to try and get a "gotcha" for example, claiming that I said I would stop supporting the club if we don't make a singing which is a flat out lie.

I didn't concede to goat either, I never claimed that what I am saying is right or has any relevance to our activity, I am giving my opinion on a fucking message board and my stance all along has been "I don't think we will make any signings, or if we do it will be last minute BUT I HOPE THAT ISN'T THE CASE"

In other words, I hope I am proven wrong by the end of the window, so how is me saying "let's see what happens at the end of the window because I am sick of having back and forths and it going nowhere" me conceding to goat?

Also you saying "I have thrown a few jabs" at you and goat (in other words, I have called you a cunt in the past and an insufferable bore for taking my quotes out of context continuously) and then trying to conflate that with goat telling me to kill myself and calling me a gooner is pathetic quite frankly.

I might disagree with you sometimes and yeah, not going to lie, I think you behave like a sanctimonious prick sometimes but I also agree with you a lot of the time on things as well, so it balances out.

I am pretty sure you think I am a cunt sometimes as well and that's fine, we can't always agree and none of us are perfect but I would NEVER wish harm upon you and I certainly wouldn't accuse you of being a gooner or a shit fan for having a different opinion, goat told me to fucking kill myself because he didn't like my opinion and you are trying to handwave and downplay it and justify it like it's the same as us throwing jabs at each other.

I also wouldn't spread misinformation about you like you are with me saying that I said I would stop supporting the club if we didn't sign anybody, that's absolute bollocks and you know it.

Anyway, I am done with this conversation mate, have a nice day.

What a load of sanctimonious old guff.

To quote a wise old man....

"Bore off, you melt".
 
Strawman argument, the OP didn't say we should spend like City. I'm surprised you didn't mention Messi.

What he did say was "Get business done early and make sure our manager has his first choice targets" - what is anyone's problem with that?
Airfixx try's too hard to be seen as a true fan. But all his credibility is lost when he defends people like spursdem personally abusing our own players. Posts like rose is a poisonous fat snake. Airfixx supports abusing our own players so he can't act as though he is above other fans.
 
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