Not convinced that's why we signed him, the role he performed for France was completely different one Poch was looking to fulfil. He didn't play him in CM/DM until his 2nd season.
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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread
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Agree...no doubt he has great talent but he has always flattered to deceive. Would be better off with the likes of Fraser at Bournemouth. Grafter with no little skill. Creates and scores. Probably cannot do a rabona though.
I think I've addressed it, no one in the side was fantastic that night, so I wouldn't just single him out for criticism.
Shopping him out to who? It's Real Madrid or no one. We aren't going to sell him to another English club, RM is the only club who might be willing to pay the fee.
It's the worst fucking 'news' website out, copying idiots' Twatter posts and dressing it up as an article.
Finally!!! ...About 10 posts later you finally concede to the obvious.
I appreciate what he HAS contributed.
You're still dancing round the issue though.
Nonsense..... If you publicly pimped yourself out; you'd risk being sacked before you found another job.
How'd you think your employer would react if you told them on the eve of a pivotal moment in their history that you fancied a new challenge?
There's circa £100m directly wrapped up in CEs contract impasse.....
Slightly different stakes.
Besides, Poch's comments have been no-where near as categoric either and any furore about Poch saying he'd retire if he won the CL is/was ridiculous as it was little more than a figure of speach seized upon by the tin-hat brigade that were screaming "showdowwwwwn".
Meh, GKN received pelters for being photgraphed wearing a Chav shirt.... Similarly plenty took exception to Jansen refusing an EPL loan.
Ironic tho'... Cos in a sense that's effectively what I'm accusing you of.
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Until NOW you hadn't, no.
.....Anyone else revealed to be dreaming of a move though?
More baseless assumption presented as fact.
RM
Barca
PSG
Bayern
Juve (Rabiot means it's not likely now, but that only broke yeterday)
Atletico
Miss managed is an understatement. I watched the first half of that game last night and I genuinely physically couldn't watch the second. Absolutely horrendous stuff. Argentina are such a mess it's untrue. They've got a 40 year old bloke who's never managed a senior side in his life in charge ffs.
It really does just go to show that the classic line that's often trotted out "sure even I could win a trophy with those players" is total and utter bollocks.
Now I KNOW you're reaching like fuck...
Poch wouldn't bring it up in a presser..... It's against the clubs interests.
You not seen how he reacts to speculation of this nature..?. Even when he's asked if someone is playing a particular game he gets moody and clams up.
Everyone agrees that Ndombele (or as similar a quality CM as possible if Ndombele deal falls through) is necessary.
Lo Celso is an Eriksen successor but also a real back up for him if he stays - plus with Lamela often injured an upgrade on the depth we have at AM - and he can play CM. With Llorente gone, atm Son and Moura would be Kane's rotation option, so we would need to strengthen last seasons AM line up to cope if we had to.
So if the Lo Celso deal fell through for whatever reason I could see another good quality CM/AM coming in, but given we have been negotiating for him for quite some time now, I think Poch has him as his clear favourite choice.
IMO, DL would buy a 3rd first team squad player - but until we know where we are with Alderweireld, Eriksen and indeed Vertonghen, he's not going to press the button on who (or more importantly which position) until that becomes known - the 3rd player could be a striker, winger/striker, CB or other for example.
You've missed out Son who is pretty devastating.. and fast.
A good cm will add quick incisive passing, something we have missed when Winks is injured, and also when we've had so many injured our forwards have all been fatigued so not taking advantage even if the passing tempo has increased.
Happy to add some speed though - even though with sides defending deep against us these days its the clever quick passing in the final third we need rather than outright speed.
Profoundly depressing that we're arguing about who to ship out instead of excitedly imagining where our new signings will fit in.
Still, we don't want to rush into things
Still, we don't want to rush into things
We should sign players but also we need to free up the squad.
But also we should keep one-legged Lamela and a disabled Wanyama.
But also we should keep one-legged Lamela and a disabled Wanyama.
I don't think you appreciate it really, in response to me saying he scored 10 goals, you said pardon you for not getting too excited and hardly a shop window season.
I'm not dancing around the issue, I addressed it, you just don't agree which is a different matter.
It's a pointless question, I could tell you anything, there is no way for me to prove it
You haven't addressed what he's said about transfers, stuff like
"If you want to expect the same from Liverpool, from Manchester City or Manchester United and Chelsea, and you put the same expectation on Tottenham, give me different tools to work.
"If not, I see the people working in the same way, in the future I'm going to be this guy. I am the most stupid person to work."
Not just this season either.
They are our hated rivals so obviously people will be pissed about as for people taking exception to Jansen refusing a loan they were only upset because they wanted him out.Meh, GKN received pelters for being photgraphed wearing a Chav shirt.... Similarly plenty took exception to Jansen refusing an EPL loan.
Ironic tho'... Cos in a sense that's effectively what I'm accusing you of.
Speaking out against the way we do transfers is against the clubs best interests but he still does it.
Point remains... It's been a below par season for him and now we know why (not for the first time).
It's not pointless at all... It completely rubbishes your 'real job' comparison.
Funny, you say that about proof tho.... You seem to be trading largely off of baseless speculation and faith here.
Equating to "judge me on what I spend"/"I'd like to spend more if I can."
Not sure what issue you expect me to take with that tbh..... Especially considering he's was probably just batting back shit-stirring questioning (Like Rose previously, CE meanwhile just served up great copy on a silver platter)....
Fuck know's what that means tbh.
Fair enough (not that loan = "out" in that sense), but answer me this then?
What damage does an unwanted player with little market value playing the same game as Eriksen threaten to do?
Very little, but I'd still want the fucker out on the same principal.
Ultimately my view is simple; "media are rats, don't feed them".
Again it's not baseless, Athletico are not a bigger club than us, even if they could afford the fee I don't know why on earth he would want to go there. Barca are not going to pay 80-100 million for him only RM will possibly do that, they have a history of overpaying for players even if they don't fit the side.
PSG and all the others won't pay the fee. That's why there are reports of them offering Draxler plus money.
Profoundly depressing that we're arguing about who to ship out instead of excitedly imagining where our new signings will fit in.
Still, we don't want to rush into things
Looking good Bill
Is that a new outfit ?
Oliver Reed was on the booze slightly less than McGrath