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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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We really do seem like we are a team that keep hold of its sellabke assets for far too long.

Sissoko, Lamela, Aurier, Rose really shouldn’t we anywhere near the club anymore really and the likes of Foyth, Dele and Winks are quickly becoming of the same mould.

If it wasn’t for Dier’s positional change I would add him into that group as well. 7-8 players that we still have on our books that have either reached a ceiling or drastically fallen away. It’s pretty obvious to me why we don’t see, to be taking progressive steps forward. Sell the flakey stuff that you know ain’t got it in them to take you onto bigger things, reinvest the money into fresh blood and hope a few come good. Honestly how Sissoko and Lamela are still Tottenham players after all of these years still leaves me shaking my head.

During the Amazon Doc Mourinho even says we look a more fluid team with Eriksen starting so how have we acknowledged the issues that come through selling him yet not replace that skill set? I’m braced for a rocky season after that horror show of a start yesterday, I hope the lads prove me wrong.
Seems we had this convo last year and you thought I was wrong in saying we needed new players. Either way, welcome aboard the recognition train. We are happy to accommodate your late arrival this time but next time we'd like to depart on time.
 
I've co-founded and run an internet forum. You inevitably attract a lot of childish posters. But it's easy to distinguish them from the grown ups.

Rob does generally seem like a nice enough guy, but by blindly backing A&C in whatever outrageous control freakery he chooses to pursue he's damaged SC significantly.


He’s honestly horrible that A&C. Seems to thrive on the lemmings on there licking his ass and laughing at his pathetic unfunny jokes. Begs for donations, yet threatens everyone with the ban and locks threads regularly. A complete tosspot of a person and someone with a weird power fixation on an Internet forum, ridiculous.
 
Yep. It's like on football manager where you just keep playing the exact same line up in hopes that you get a lucky break and a burst of confidence with upped morale.

This is what Jose seems to be doing. Subbing Dele off means nothing if he's right back in the starting line up against Southampton.

4231 didn't work at home to Everton. Playing the exact same way but with different players isn't going to matter.

the annoying thing about his lopsided back 4 is that I genuinely believe if he flipped it the team would be better off., because it puts less players at a disadvantage.

Sessegnon high with Tanganga/Foyth narrow. Play Sanchez in the left channel with his recovery pace. Toby can hold the middle.

this let’s son be a proper inside foward off the left, Bergwijn is fine as a more orthodox RW.

the team/squad is so obviouly built for a 4-3-3
 
So the best signings this summer have been a world class striker for the women’s team and someone called Valencia Yid?

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“Now it’s about creating another chapter and to have the clear idea of how we are going to build that new project. We need to rebuild. It’s going to be painful.”

We cannot live like we lived in the last five years — on the perception side and on the reality side. We achieved a lot of things, we overachieved maybe. Because of our ambition and the way that we work, we’re here now in a very good position.

“But what next? I cannot guess because it’s a club decision. What can we expect now? One question the other day was, ‘is the depth of the squad not at the quality of the new stadium?’


“If we start next season talking about that, nothing good is going to happen in the future. The perception and the feeling are not going to be right.”

“Can we repeat [our achievements] next season? I cannot guess. When we finish the season, I think it’s a moment to close a five-year chapter, to analyse, to talk a lot and to give the real value of that period. It was amazing.

“The problem is: what do we want for the next chapter? Now we’ve finished the training ground and the stadium, what does the club want to achieve in the next one, two, three or five years and what are the fans expecting

"There’s many things to talk about and put on the table, and then try to be realistic.”

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This gets trotted out every window like it's some kind of prophetic Nostradamus-esque piece of visionary thinking. Every fucking club needs to continually evolve. Every manager whines about new players, Redknapp made a career out of it. Some of us were calling for it long before Poch made this statement and realised some of his favourite's needed part-exing.

He was an integral part of a process that brought in around 24 players during his 5 years, and shipped out about the same.

When he made that statement did he expect that the club was going to buy and sell 20 players in one window? Did he think the club within a month of completing the stadium and saddling itself with 800m of new debt had suddenly turned itself into an oil state that could circumnavigate FFP?

Does the fact that the owners run the club as a sustainable business, you know, like nearly every other club in Europe, mean Poch gets a free pass for his part in poor decisions, or for what he does in his job as head coach?

Levy fucked up in terms of how and who he has trusted to lead the recruiting and the structure and process. But throughout the process Poch had a significant influence (especially from2016 onwards) on when to and how to rebuild, it took Pochettino 2-3 years too late to realise that some of his favourites needed evolving and he was part of the process that bought players and sold them.

For a guy who's ethos was built around energy, dynamism, intensity he also completely ignored the on tap supply of those qualities he had at his disposal within the academy who's coaching he'd had influence over. Regardless of whether some of them were ever going to be good enough (just like players Poch had influence over recruiting) they could have at least enabled him to maintain energy, dynamism, aggression and some intensity - in the same way that people like mason, bentaleb, Kane had when they were used instead of superior talented footballers at that time.

Regardless of. whether Poch got bought what he wanted (how many managers do) he continually chose to use players who were completely counter-intuitive to his ethos in remits that were counter-intuitive to their skills. That has fuck all to do with Levy.
 
At the end of the day, Levy is choosing the players we buy. Anyone arguing otherwise is living in cloud cuckoo land.

He is presented with video clips, pie-charts/stats/graphs (like the print-out we saw Mou? looking at in the Amazon documentary) and moneyball data/projections from the data scientists. He may even watch the player on TV once he has been brought to his attention by Hitchen or whomever (like this Zaniolo kid he has had a tremendous erection for, going back to last summer).

Daniel Levy knows jackshit about football but that does not stop him having an opinion on players.

By setting the financial parameters he pulls out of his ass, that is his way of going after the players he has a personal preference for. Or he negotiates in bad faith for players that he does not want.

And it is not just about the players we buy. That's only half the problem. He also decides who leaves/does not leave, and who gets a contract extension/does not get a contract extension.

The reason the squad is full of crap is that he thinks there is more value yet to be squeezed out of terribly average players. Or it's cheaper to hand out contract extensions than flush the toilet, and bring in some quality.

And for the players he is willing to let go, nobody wants them at the prices he is setting. And that goes back to his lack of football expertise. Why is a guy that knows as much about football as a fucking lizard in human form setting the valuations for these players?
 
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There’s levels. We don’t have the players to win the league, we do have the players to make a better fist of playing at home to Everton.

Jose was horrid yesterday. He got as little out of our squad as was possible with his horrid tactics, setup and substitutions.
Yes, there are levels but Everton are balanced. This win will bolster their confidence and in a couple month's time we should check back in with this statement. I have a very low opinion of many of our players based on their individual 'skillsets'. Many should have been gone in the painful rebuid.
 
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