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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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Like anything in life, it’s about finding the right people who are talented but work together well. I always think it’s better if the DoF is involved in selecting the coach, though, because then he has even more of a reason to help him succeed.

Indeed.... Don't get me wrong.... I want the full DOF package that allows them to choose the manager to suit their outlook.
 
Simple question - do you think Levy's salary as highest paid Chairman in the PL is justified?

You seem to get very wound up by this on a daily basis, yet there is nothing we can do about it. You need to let it go. I haven’t looked it up but it probably equates to what someone like Danny rose earns in a year. Is it too much, probably, but I don’t really care. We probably pay more to agents in a year, which is a fuck of a lot more annoying.
 
Can you show me a reliable article that says “Club X bid Amount Y for CE and Y was a fair bid but DL denied the offer”?

I know there are sources that said DL asked too much, but I can’t find a genuine article that states we actually denied a decent offer.
Is that a good faith question Stanley or did your recent graduation come from Airfixx U? I'm sensing it is not in good faith.

I do not have to supply a reliable article as your statement is not a claim I have made so I need not support your red herring. In fact, the bolded part of your post above supports the only claim I made ie that he was priced out of a deal by his account and journalists.

So I ask Stanley, are all your questions going to be "my-point-adjacent" from here on out or in the future are you actually going to comment directly on anything I said...or just leave it? No one is twisting your arm.
 

Bailey is a nice player, but us sniffing around a tricky, pacey, left-footed attacker who prefers to play on the left wing, along with not hearing anything about any left backs, suggests to me that Mourinho sees Sessegnon's future at fullback.
 
I think we had to move on, MVP MVP . As much as I loved the old place, you look at photos of it now, and you wonder how we managed in it. One shitter in every bog, and never any toilet roll left by the time the final whistle had blown.
Baby wipes you filthy fucking bugger. And what nasty bastard takes a shit in a stadium after all his bredren have pinched the bog roll? Swine!
 
I want a DOF system with the manager getting players he wants rather than players he doesn't want.

At Spurs a DOF results in the manager having less input into player recruitment, not more. That's not a hypothetical, it's happened several times and always ends in disaster.

The idea Levy has always built this project around is Lyon in the 2000's who won 7 straight French titles under 5 different managers who were all very well understood to be head coaches only, and who moved onto other jobs with the structure above them remaining stable: a nominal DOF, but run chiefly by Jean-Michel Aulas as a non-football business mogul chairman who consistently hacked the marketplace buying young assets with sell-on value and then flogging them off to bigger clubs at their peak value.

Levy started this project by hiring literally the guy who started the project at Lyon: Jacques Santini.

In its way that's kind of exactly what he's accomplished. It's just that being as good as the mid-aughts Lyon sides in present day England means finishing 3-6th and losing a lot of cup semifinals.
 
I never once made a shit in that stadium. You'd be lucky if there was enough soap left to wash your hole after the game.

Since we are doing a confession time, I gave birth to a massive log in the loos at the Red Robin in Wigan once right before a game.

Clogged the drain too. Blatant violation of every code of conduct ever, left too without owning up.

So much bad karma that it's a miracle we won the game. Thank fuck Edgar Davids were on hand to save os.
 
The DoF role is almost impossible to run in it's intended format
In that format, the DoF is really the head honcho, with the coach just in charge of training the players he is given. The coach is pretty much disposable, and the system relies on the DoF and his team being the long term appointments and the coaches being picked to train the players in a set formula.
Most top coaches don't want that. They want the power and in all honesty, most top coaches deserve it.
They get the best out of the players, they get players loyalty and you know a lot of players will follow a coach.

IMO, we tried his set up with Arnesson, Jol and Santini and that started going belly up immediately.
We tried it again with Ramos as he was in that system at Saville. But he wasn't the part of that system that worked.

What we really need are scouts that find the players the coach wants.
I need a right back, ideally 5ft 10+ under 28, able to run about a bit and can cross a ball ocassionally.
Yes boss, I found 3, would you like to see the reports?
Good lad, I'll take no.2 on the list.
 
At Spurs a DOF results in the manager having less input into player recruitment, not more. That's not a hypothetical, it's happened several times and always ends in disaster.

The idea Levy has always built this project around is Lyon in the 2000's who won 7 straight French titles under 5 different managers who were all very well understood to be head coaches only, and who moved onto other jobs with the structure above them remaining stable: a nominal DOF, but run chiefly by Jean-Michel Aulas as a non-football business mogul chairman who consistently hacked the marketplace buying young assets with sell-on value and then flogging them off to bigger clubs at their peak value.

In its way that's kind of exactly what he's accomplished. It's just that being as good as the mid-aughts Lyon sides in present day England means finishing 3-6th and losing a lot of cup semifinals.
Lyon actually scouted young talent everywhere and produced some very fine talents from there very own academy. We apparently have no scouts and produce very little from "The Best Training Facility in the World" (tm).

Aulas was able to beat Levy to a 60K stadium as well and that was without the riches of the PL. The difference between the two is that although Aulas is a loudmouth look at me type he has and listens to very good advisers. He has a cadre of folks around him that helped him along in those years.
 
Most top coaches don't want that. They want the power and in all honesty, most top coaches deserve it.

Step #1 of setting up a system like that is accepting that you aren't hiring decorated top managers, but rather young up and comers or well-trodden names who are willing to accept the contours of the project, and as soon as you have any success, the managers are going to want to leave, and you thank them for their services and let them go.

Levy fancies himself a connoisseur of managerial talent (and in fairness he is very good at it) so he can't quite bring himself to go there.
 
Step #1 of setting up a system like that is accepting that you aren't hiring decorated top managers, but rather young up and comers or well-trodden names who are willing to accept the contours of the project, and as soon as you have any success, the managers are going to want to leave, and you thank them for their services and let them go.

Levy fancies himself a connoisseur of managerial talent (and in fairness he is very good at it) so he can't quite bring himself to go there.

I made this point to MVP MVP yesterday..... Essentially we'd have had to sack Poch & Harry just as things were starting to look good, because they both started jockeying for more control.
 
Step #1 of setting up a system like that is accepting that you aren't hiring decorated top managers, but rather young up and comers or well-trodden names who are willing to accept the contours of the project, and as soon as you have any success, the managers are going to want to leave, and you thank them for their services and let them go.

Levy fancies himself a connoisseur of managerial talent (and in fairness he is very good at it) so he can't quite bring himself to go there.

We did it with Poch but as with any coach worth having, he became very popular with the fans, demanded more power and it all ends in tears.

The system can't work for so many reasons so I'm not sure why people still talk about it.
 
How did we generate the difference between £1bn and £637m?

For a start the hypothetical difference would be more like 750 m to 1bn inc the BOA/ML loan.

I very much doubt that hypothetical difference would have been Spurs plonking down 250m on the builders table the day they moved on site from a spare 250m it had lying around it's current account doing nothing, it would have come from various directions, some cash at bank maybe, revenue streams (including those from the new stadium, stadium partnerships etc) earned and paid over the course of the process (what 5/6 years or so ? and beyond).
 
For a start the hypothetical difference would be more like 750 m to 1bn inc the BOA/ML loan.
Where did you get £750m from?
I very much doubt that hypothetical difference would have been Spurs plonking down 250m on the builders table the day they moved on site from a spare 250m it had lying around it's current account doing nothing, it would have come from various directions, some cash at bank maybe, revenue streams (including those from the new stadium, stadium partnerships etc) and paid over the course of the process (what 5 years or so ? and beyond).
How did we pay for the CPOs?
 
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