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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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1) Luckily, we can get away with inconsistency now we have four excellent midfield options. It's his profile that suits us most and it's his profile that we've been missing for over 3 years.

2) Whilst no, we don't necessarily need his goals, him making up 10+ of our goals in the league this season would be a good reply and would help greatly. it's another option. We'd all like that profile you want. It's hopefully what Perisic can bring us and it's what we all hope Spence will be.




There have been signs of exciting wide play albeit sparse.

I think we've shown we are far more than just a one dimensional team though. We didn't play the same way against Liverpool as we did against Norwich for example. We played teams that set up with a low block against us last season and comfortably beat them, we just don't talk about those games because we happened to create chances.

If the easy way to beat Tottenham Hotspur was to play a low block then every team would do it. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, you can't break teams down on the day. There's been plenty of games over the last few years alone where City and Liverpool have failed to break us down and those are two teams we look at an admire for the way they play and their ruthlessness.

I think what's important is that we go into games with the right mentality every game. I remember Brighton at home specifically last season, where we had a great chance to extend our lead into fourth place and the intensity was all wrong. We were slow, we were narrow and I dont think we had a single shot on target.... bare in mind, we had already played Brighton twice that season and put five goals passed them....

Sometimes that happens. Conte needs to make sure those days are few and far between.
Nice post, well said.
 
So you're complaining about complaining about complaining :sonpoint:
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How to Liverpool break down deep defences?
Insane fullbacks that play like wingbacks, early crossing from deep, generally incredible crossing, pacy creative forwards?

My suggestion is aimed at the idea we might have to play Emerson a lot. I could see lessening his attacking burden positionally (RWB to RB) towards the end of a game we are chasing, and putting on a CAM type player, to be a net attacking move in that situation for us. I did acknowledge it would take a lot of effort to get comfortable with switching formation like that though. If scrambling for ideas on how to squeeze out a few points, I hope we'd consider all avenues.
 
If we moved the ball quicker and used our width to our advantage, we wouldn't need to switch our formation at all against inferior teams severely parking the bus.

Getting another midfielder on isn't going to help us against bus parking teams. It's just going to make the middle of the pitch more congested.
As you suggested, they might see Kulu in that role.

I don’t think it would have to be congested. Well, it might be if Harry keeps mooching around there. And yes, moving the ball quickly is key, regardless of formation.

You never know, it might be something that we see Bissouma being able to do. That could be his development; push him forward ten / fifteen yards and task him with really progressing our play.
 
Insane fullbacks that play like wingbacks, early crossing from deep, generally incredible crossing, pacy creative forwards?

My suggestion is aimed at the idea we might have to play Emerson a lot. I could see lessening his attacking burden positionally (RWB to RB) towards the end of a game we are chasing, and putting on a CAM type player, to be a net attacking move in that situation for us. I did acknowledge it would take a lot of effort to get comfortable with switching formation like that though. If scrambling for ideas on how to squeeze out a few points, I hope we'd consider all avenues.

So attacking from other areas of the pitch and in particular the wide areas, exactly. ;)

I'm not sure Conte is going to favour Emerson if we're trying to break down a low block, he's a defensive minded RWB.

I like the option though so I agree it would be nice but not essential IMO.
 
So attacking from other areas of the pitch and in particular the wide areas, exactly. ;)

I'm not sure Conte is going to favour Emerson if we're trying to break down a low block, he's a defensive minded RWB.

I like the option though so I agree it would be nice but not essential IMO.

I get what you are saying, it's just a suggestion on how to squeeze every last drop from the proverbial lemon of our squad. There are other ways to attack... "In battle plans I have found to be useless, but planning to be essential." - DE
 
How to Liverpool break down deep defences?

By having a right wing back who essentially plays as a midfielder and has the ability to create more than most midfielders in the world?

One of those available are they? They also happen to have Thiago these days, who doesn’t assist directly much but runs games & progresses play far better than any of our midfielders.
 
By having a right wing back who essentially plays as a midfielder and has the ability to create more than most midfielders in the world?

One of those available are they? They also happen to have Thiago these days, who doesn’t assist directly much but runs games & progresses play far better than any of our midfielders.
Yep.

And they also press. Well, Mane did. Although I expect Nunez will fit that role.

Actually one of the things that Richarlison will help with. We really need to start harassing those teams.
 
Probably.

But I think it'd be about as much use as taking off a defender and bringing Richarlison on too. Which we have the possibility of doing without splashing a further £40,000,000+
Oh knowing how much we usually spend and on what, I'd definitely be disappointed if we shelled out 40m for that kind of an option too. Eriksen on a free was the early summer pipe dream...
 
As you suggested, they might see Kulu in that role.

I don’t think it would have to be congested. Well, it might be if Harry keeps mooching around there. And yes, moving the ball quickly is key, regardless of formation.

You never know, it might be something that we see Bissouma being able to do. That could be his development; push him forward ten / fifteen yards and task him with really progressing our play.

I know it's all rather cliché but I am going to trust Conte knows what he's doing and his championship winning resumé tells me that he knows how to get the job done. He'll squeeze the best output from players who want to learn and install a mentality in this team that should see winners born.

Bissouma and Perisic plug two weaknesses we had last season. A lack of wing back width and a press-resisting central midfielder who can move the ball forward quickly. To go from Reguilon and Winks to those two is a sign of where we're heading.
 
The OWNERS, mate. Not the CLUB

*these stepford supporters really need to start distinguishing between the two*

Anyhow, that aside, 1 Carling Cup in over 2 decades, and 0 trophies in 15 years, for a club of our size and wealth surely indicates I have a very valid point.

The stats don't lie, my friend, whichever way you want to spin them


Edit: Big thanks to todd1882 todd1882 for enlightening me to the term "Stepford fan / supporter"
I think I'll be using it quite a lot in the future
As I said in a previous post, in the past 6 years we made a couple of league cup finals and the CL final, for goodness sake. The fact we made it that far means we had a good team. The fact we didn't win in any of our finals has fuck all to do with how much the owners spent and more with team preparation, tactics, belief, and luck.

So spare me the "we didn't win anything because the owners didn't spend" bullshit. It's getting really really really old.
 
Probably.

But I think it'd be about as much use as taking off a defender and bringing Richarlison on too. Which we have the possibility of doing without splashing a further £40,000,000+
Richarlison on at ST for, say, Dier, and then Kane dropping a bit deeper to be able to get on the ball at all times would be pretty great IMO. Back 6 pressing high to collect ball, Kane gets choice to play in Son, Richy, or Kulu, with 1/2s back to self or shoot from deep. It could be delicious.
 
Oh knowing how much we usually spend and on what, I'd definitely be disappointed if we shelled out 40m for that kind of an option too. Eriksen on a free was the early summer pipe dream...

I feel like Eriksen would have only made sense from a money stand point and not much else.

We aren't going to change permanently to a 352 which already limits his game time. We aren't going to play him as part of a midfield two, which further limits his game time. And I am not sure as a professional, he'd have been happy enough to leave Brentford where he's starting games each week to come to Spurs to sit on a bench for what could have likely been his final big contract.


Richarlison on at ST for, say, Dier, and then Kane dropping a bit deeper to be able to get on the ball at all times would be pretty great IMO. Back 6 pressing high to collect ball, Kane gets choice to play in Son, Richy, or Kulu, with 1/2s back to self or shoot from deep. It could be delicious.

I think in the situation, it'd be the RB that comes off and we'd head for:

Richarlison
Son - Kane - Kulu
Bissouma - Bentancur
Davies - Dier - Romero - Perisic
Lloris
Which would be a worried sight for most opponents defences. But that's just fantasy booking. I don't see Conte ever changing up his favoured formation for a four at the back formation to push on. I don't recall him doing this much at Chelsea or Inter Milan nor in his short time here.
 
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