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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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For me yes. We've spent far more in the past on players with no PL experience who end up having absolutely nothing to offer. Traore may not have much to offer, but what he does have - that ability to smash his way up the pitch - could be invaluable in some games, particularly the bigger games, and when you also think about Conte's reputation for improving players simply through repetition a million times of what he wants them to do, largely removing much of the brainwork for some players, for me it seems that might suit Traore perfectly, and hence be a punt worth taking.

But I recognise it's not a popular opinion on here, and given his previous stats I completely understand why - it absolutely would be a punt.
I always thought traore was the ideal weapon against the bus....
 
I get an overwhelming sense of the Lamela’s with Zaniolo. Similar type of player, similar kind of attitude, similar (if not worse) injury problems.
Not sure I completely agree, B-C.

Lamela's injuries were primarily muscular and core (back etc). Zaniolo has had an ACL injury on both knees, which historically would likely be a career ender, but those more knowledgable about modern medicine suggest this is no longer the case. They even suggest that surgically repaired cruciate ligaments may be stronger than the ones we're born with.

I think we signed Lamela because we thought he could be the next Bale, cutting in from the flank onto his left foot to score screamers on a regular basis. Of course, we eventually learnt Erik's strengths were tenacity and shithousery, plus the very occasional Rabona.

I suspect Conte has a plan for Zaniolo, which is to use him as a strong & fast ball carrier in wide positions when we win back the ball in transition. Hence Adama Traore being mooted as a cheaper Plan C if we fail to land Zaniolo.

For me, the core problem is that this is probably the riskiest of the "Conte wants, so Conte gets" transfers.

Perisic, Richarlison, Bissouma & Lenglet all make perfect sense for Conte's tactics & squad depth. Zaniolo feels like more of a gamble. And an Ndombele-priced one at that.

Erik Lamela - Injury history
 
He’s actually one of the few pacey dribblers that still performs well against a set defence.

Comes back to the same old sticking point, "well" and "effective" doesn't seem to stack up as managers repeatedly lose interest in him before too long.

Pretty sure we can cover his potential impact by using Richarlison instead.
 
I always thought traore was the ideal weapon against the bus....
Aha now that's the one thing I absolutely wouldn't use him for, quite the opposite. I don't see what he would give us against any team that parked the bus - he could run 60 yards unchallenged, as any player could, then when he got to the 'bus' he wouldn't have the ability to find a way to break it down. IT's games when we are severely under the cosh ourselves where he would be useful, well for me anyway.
 
Absofuckinglutely.
Blokes got one of the easiest jobs outside of the Royal family. And like those dossers, a brainwashed public pays him for it.
The family of dossers that bring in Billions every year?

According to Forbes Magazine, the House of Windsor is estimated to be worth £19 billion ($28 billion) and pumps hundreds of millions of pounds into Britain's economy every year.

According to a financial expert, it is the 1,000-year-old Firm's public perception and influence that makes it so valuable.

Another massively ignorant post
 
Aha now that's the one thing I absolutely wouldn't use him for, quite the opposite. I don't see what he would give us against any team that parked the bus - he could run 60 yards unchallenged, as any player could, then when he got to the 'bus' he wouldn't have the ability to find a way to break it down. IT's games when we are severely under the cosh ourselves where he would be useful, well for me anyway.
He would pull that bus out of position. He's not afraid of attacking a wall and creating cracks for others to utilise. Certainly worth 15m. Under Conte he would flourish but if Conte doesn't want him, that's fine too.
 
I get an overwhelming sense of the Lamela’s with Zaniolo. Similar type of player, similar kind of attitude, similar (if not worse) injury problems.

I think the similarities stop at being left footed and from Roma, to be honest.

Zaniolo is streets above Lamela in terms of actual footballing ability. Much better on the ball, much better at carrying the ball forward and strikers the ball much better.

If I had to compare Zaniolo to anyone stylistically, it'd be Kaka.

However, I'd probably only take Zaniolo on if it's a loan with obligation to buy like the Kulusevski deal because of those question marks over his fitness/injury history.

I feel like people are against Zaniolo because he's more a dribbler than a creative player and therefore they have this belief that he doesn't solve our 'problems' against the low block teams. But it's usually the dribblers that have the most luck against the low block sides.

You can be as creative as you want but if your opponent is very well drilled, it doesn't matter how good you can pass the ball, the space just isn't going to be there to create and if it is, you're going to have to thread it through the eye of a needle.
 
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I don't know any about Zaniolo's ACLs aside from he has done them both.

If they were result of bad tackles it is hard to label him as injury prone. If they were the result of simply planting and twisting as he ran/cut that is another story entirely.
That's a really interesting point. Re-injury risk is probably partly because a ruptured ligament is never quite as strong. But some players risk injury through their playing style. Gazza's ACL being a prime example.
 
He would pull that bus out of position. He's not afraid of attacking a wall and creating cracks for others to utilise. Certainly worth 15m. Under Conte he would flourish but if Conte doesn't want him, that's fine too.
I don't see how he would pull a bus-parked defence out of position at all - if you watch his highlights, it's not about attacking a wall at all, it's all about running from deep when the opposition is a bit stretched - you won't find many examples when he runs into a well-set block of 4/5 on the edge of the box and does anything useful in that situation. Believe me, I've watched enough highlights clips to know - he's always been an enigma to me, physically totally unique, some good technique sometimes, but hardly ever any actual useful end product, and I've always wondered if one day someone will harness his attributes and make a superstar out of him - but time is running out, he's no young lad any more...

Anyway, there are two things we do agree on: I'd love to see what Conte could make of him; but if Conte doesn't want him and hence doesn't think he can make a player out of him, then of course I'd absolutely trust his decision on that. :)
 
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