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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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It is not a dreamland scenario to say we could make moves to improve the team.

Who cares what other teams that don't have the needs we have do? Chelsea and City don't make moves in January because they have quality teams and address their needs in the summer.

They don't have to buy 4-5 players, how about instead of signing a marginal upgrade in Bentancur we bring in a player that addresses our needs better than him?

Or bring in the much needed RWB that Conte needs to make his system work.

The person living a dream world is you trying to pretend that we can't upgrade the absolute dog shit talent we have at this club. That it is impossible to address the many issues we have.
Yup, lots of CL standard RWBs to be had in the January window.
If only we had upgraded the way West Ham and United did.
 
Yup, lots of CL standard RWBs to be had in the January window.
If only we had upgraded the way West Ham and United did.

You mean West Ham and United who are ahead of us?

This is the stupid shit that losers use to justify our stupid decisions- "hey some other club didn't do something so awesome for us that we keep running out there."

We are running Championship level RWB's out there pretending there was no ability to upgrade on the shit we have is a flat out lie.

Keep accepting shit and that is what the club will continue to deliver.
 
Whatever man, I'm not going to have another one of these debates with you and your dreamland version of the world. No one ever does much business in the winter. City buys 1 maybe 2 players with their unlimited funding. Most Chelsea have ever bought with Roman's dodgy book is 3 I believe. Newcastle came in and spent big this winter because the Saudis took over a shit relegation candidate club who literally anyone could improve.

We did very well in a winter window to find 2 good players and shift out some deadwood to make space for next season. Keep thinking you know more than everyone in the world, and you'll keep being disappointed. Because signing 4-5 players in January is just unrealistic. Like me asking my boss to start paying me $1M/yr.
Wait, so you're telling me you asked your boss to pay you 1 dollar of Monopoly money a year.

Even Levy would take you on...
 
You mean West Ham and United who are ahead of us?

This is the stupid shit that losers use to justify our stupid decisions- "hey some other club didn't do something so awesome for us that we keep running out there."

We are running Championship level RWB's out there pretending there was no ability to upgrade on the shit we have is a flat out lie.

Keep accepting shit and that is what the club will continue to deliver.
So, let’s not accept a small upgrade like Betancur at CM but we have to upgrade as RWB where any upgrade will do.
Schrodinger’s Window.
Unless you want a give me a list of those world class RWBs that were salivating for a January move.
 
So, let’s not accept a small upgrade like Betancur at CM but we have to upgrade as RWB where any upgrade will do.
Schrodinger’s Window.
Unless you want a give me a list of those world class RWBs that were salivating for a January move.

Just to be clear you are claiming we had no option to upgrade at RWB this January?

That is your argument?

LOL

We are one of the biggest clubs in the world with the advantage of having the PL broadcast money to make us more financially stable compared to many clubs all over Europe but bringing in a RB better than Doherty and Royal was impossible for us.

It is laughable the lengths losers will go to try and make excuses for how poorly we are run.
 
Just to be clear you are claiming we had no option to upgrade at RWB this January?

That is your argument?

LOL

We are one of the biggest clubs in the world with the advantage of having the PL broadcast money to make us more financially stable compared to many clubs all over Europe but bringing in a RB better than Doherty and Royal was impossible for us.

It is laughable the lengths losers will go to try and make excuses for how poorly we are run.
There are plenty of better right wing backs in the championship we could have signed
 
Exactly.

Its why although people will go on and on about Kulu and Bentancur and how great it is we got them, the window was at best a 5/10.

We play Burnley and again have no players that can break down a low block. We all knew it was a problem and did nothing to address it.

We see Kane and Son are tired, Son especially, but have zero goal scoring options. Against United, MIddlebrough Son especially looked cooked but the best we can bring on is Moura and Bergwijn who offer basically nothing in terms of goals.

And of course there is the RWB issue which was an absolutely criminal that we didn't address it at all.
This is why I'm keen for Gil to come back from loan next season- he can start when Son is tired or going through a bad patch.

5/10 window is fair.
Bentancur is slightly better than PEH and Winks; but inconsistent. Sometimes he pulls off ambitious passes, but other times he spends too long pondering on the ball. He needs to realise the PL is played at 100mph.

Kulu has impressed me a lot, he's clearly a very technically gifted footballer. But he's not a goalscorer.

If you're going to bring in someone like him at RW, that's okay by me, but then you need someone like Reece James alongside him. He has best goal/min ratio out of all Chelsea players this season- 5 goals 6 assists.
 
Just to be clear you are claiming we had no option to upgrade at RWB this January?

That is your argument?

LOL

We are one of the biggest clubs in the world with the advantage of having the PL broadcast money to make us more financially stable compared to many clubs all over Europe but bringing in a RB better than Doherty and Royal was impossible for us.

It is laughable the lengths losers will go to try and make excuses for how poorly we are run.
Jesus, you can’t even keep up with your original argument which was not to make an incremental upgrade.
Let me guess. You would bring in a Championship level RWB on a five month contract and then buy a world class guy in Summer. Is that the way it works in Football Manager? It’s not like we’ll have a marginal upgrade sitting on a 4 or 5 year contract that will be considered deadwood by this forum come May.
 
This is why I'm keen for Gil to come back from loan next season- he can start when Son is tired or going through a bad patch.

5/10 window is fair.
Bentancur is slightly better than PEH and Winks; but inconsistent. Sometimes he pulls off ambitious passes, but other times he spends too long pondering on the ball. He needs to realise the PL is played at 100mph.

Kulu has impressed me a lot, he's clearly a very technically gifted footballer. But he's not a goalscorer.

If you're going to bring in someone like him at RW, that's okay by me, but then you need someone like Reece James alongside him. He has best goal/min ratio out of all Chelsea players this season- 5 goals 6 assists.

Bentacur and Kulu with someone like Lazzari and Guimaeres would have been great. I know people will cry that bringing in 4 guys is too much but it really shouldn't be if we have ambition.

We make those moves and we have a player that can help breakdown a Burnley team- Guimaeres, have a RWB that could have made a difference in any of our 1 goal losses.

It doesn't address the lack of goals from the MF or on the bench but I don't want people crying about me talking about scenario's where we improve our club by, gasp, spending a few pounds.
 
Jesus, you can’t even keep up with your original argument which was not to make an incremental upgrade.
Let me guess. You would bring in a Championship level RWB on a five month contract and then buy a world class guy in Summer. Is that the way it works in Football Manager? It’s not like we’ll have a marginal upgrade sitting on a 4 or 5 year contract that will be considered deadwood by this forum come May.

I wouldn't have brought in a Championship RWB no, never made that argument once.

I would have brought in a quality RWB.

You also clearly have zero idea what my original argument was likely because you clearly struggle to read.
 
It is not a dreamland scenario to say we could make moves to improve the team.

Who cares what other teams that don't have the needs we have do? Chelsea and City don't make moves in January because they have quality teams and address their needs in the summer.

They don't have to buy 4-5 players, how about instead of signing a marginal upgrade in Bentancur we bring in a player that addresses our needs better than him?

Or bring in the much needed RWB that Conte needs to make his system work.

The person living a dream world is you trying to pretend that we can't upgrade the absolute dog shit talent we have at this club. That it is impossible to address the many issues we have.
No one buys many players in the winter, particularly very impactful players, because clubs do not want to sell impactful players mid-season. Its really not that hard to understand. The degree of difficulty for signing players is higher in the winter, the available player pool is much smaller, and the window is much shorter. FFS, its just plainly not difficult to fucking understand.
 
No one buys many players in the winter, particularly very impactful players, because clubs do not want to sell impactful players mid-season. Its really not that hard to understand. The degree of difficulty for signing players is higher in the winter, the available player pool is much smaller, and the window is much shorter. FFS, its just plainly not difficult to fucking understand.

Villa just brought in 3 players that impacted their team.

Everton brought in 3 players to impact their team, plus Alli who they may have thought would but we know how crap he is so I won't count him.

Newcastle brought in 5 players.

So just this window we have 3 clubs in the PL that all brought in more players than us. Not as hard as you are trying to make it out to be.
 
Igula Igula I actually think all 4 wingbacks need to go.

None of them are good enough for what is an incredibly important position under Conte's system.

I think in an ideal world that would happen but just can't see it. Way too many areas that need addressing versus LWB. Reggie/Sess aren't ideal but we need Cbx2, MFx2, RWB x2 and a striker more than replacing either of them.

I doubt we bring in a better player than Reguilon for the 40m we would get from Madrid, even if we weren't worried about addressing the other areas.
 
I wouldn't have brought in a Championship RWB no, never made that argument once.

I would have brought in a quality RWB.

You also clearly have zero idea what my original argument was likely because you clearly struggle to read.
Those ‘quality RWBs’ that you can’t name.
Not one.

You mean Everton, Villa and Newcastle all of which are below us in the league to use your own argument.

As for the players that Everton brought in, you might have missed this but we actually sold them one of them because he’s not good enough for a Top 7 club let alone a Top 4 club.

Banging on about the number of players that Villa and Newcastle brought in doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority of them, arguably all of them, aren’t good enough to get in a CL chasing club.

I get that you make a dozen quality signings for January on your play station but the real world is a little different— and very different for people with seven- or eight-figure investments in football clubs.
Now, please put me on ignore and save me the trouble.
 
Those ‘quality RWBs’ that you can’t name.
Not one.

I can name them but even if I couldn't I am a poster on the message board is that the level that we hold our club to? Is it not ok to expect that the Spurs DOF and scouts should have a better idea of who is available?

Trippier was sold would have been a big upgrade for us and helped with set pieces that is a problem.
Mazaouri is out of contract at the end of the year so likely could have been bought.
Many rumours of Lazzari being available to us specifically.

That is 3 upgrades off the top of my head. So yes easy to name options and I am not even paid for this shit.

I would ask again do you really think that there were zero RWB's available for us to buy?

You mean Everton, Villa and Newcastle all of which are below us in the league to use your own argument.

Yes exactly three teams below us with less appeal and financial room were able to bring guys in. It should have been easier for a club like us to do it.

As for the players that Everton brought in, you might have missed this but we actually sold them one of them because he’s not good enough for a Top 7 club let alone a Top 4 club.

Nope you might of missed this because it would require reading but I addressed Dele and didn't count him.

Banging on about the number of players that Villa and Newcastle brought in doesn’t change the fact that the vast majority of them, arguably all of them, aren’t good enough to get in a CL chasing club.

Coutinho, Trippier, Guimaeres, Digne all easily walk into our side. Chris Wood adds much needed goals to help when we are done and to give Kane/Son a rest.

Plus the argument is that teams don't bring in that many players which I clearly showed that they do.


I get that you make a dozen quality signings for January on your play station but the real world is a little different— and very different for people with seven- or eight-figure investments in football clubs.
Now, please put me on ignore and save me the trouble.

Never played play station in my life and this is the most pathetic response losers make when they have no argument.

I have shown that the real world it is possible to do what I suggested so once again your argument is blown out of the water and you continue to look like an idiot.
 
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