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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.

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What's your assessment so far?

I’m not as enamoured as some seem to be with him. I think he’s benefitting greatly from not being Moura, which is understandable, 4 years of human pin ball will do that to you.

He’s definitely more composed than Moura, which is a plus, and he’s got some physical heft when it comes to protecting the ball, but Kilusevski only seems to have amble as a speed setting, and doesn’t seem to have the pace or technique to actually dribble past people or, at least, stay past them.

He’s brought something different, but I’m yet to be blown away.
 
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Last summer 10 players left the club

Rose
Gazzaniga
Foyth
Bale (L)
Vinicius (L)
Lamela
Alderweireld
Hart
Sissoko
Aurier

At least 8 leave this summer IMO.

Depending who we count.
If we include CCV who has almost never played for us and comes from loan, then it might be even more.
I could realistically see Gollini, Royal, Rodon, CCV, Regulion, Sanchez, Winks, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Moura, Bergwijn, Clarke go.

Most likely not all 12. But given Gollini, Ndombele, Lo Celso, CCV, Rodon, Winks, Clarke and Bergwijn positions - they almost feel guaranteed to go. That is already 8 players. From remining I think we see few departures as well, so could as well match the last season figure.
p.s - in winter we moved on Alli as well - so across season this is 11 players out

If that ain't rebuild, I don't know what is!
And gosh we needed it.
 
Since Conte took over, we have conceded 24 goals in 27 matches, compared to 18 for Mancity, 17 for Liverpool, and 28 for Chelsea.

Our defence is one tier below the elite clubs. A better LCB together with improved play from our wingbacks (and a healthy Skipp)… would put us close to or matching City and Liverpool.

I think Dier is great if he is together with Romero and another top CB.

Amen.

Enough of Dier bashing now.
If someone needs memory refreshed, just look at Liverpool-Arsescum-Burnley games from replay.

I am not saying that he will forever remain that solid, but once more - since ManU game where Ronaldo was given freedom, there is next to nothing to complain about our defense. Based on their performances we would have 3rd place guaranteed by now...
Even in this unfortunate Brighton game, it was Romero who was most at fault for the goal. So yea - Dier really has earned some praise and respect. Despite personal biases.
 
Amen.

Enough of Dier bashing now.
If someone needs memory refreshed, just look at Liverpool-Arsescum-Burnley games from replay.

I am not saying that he will forever remain that solid, but once more - since ManU game where Ronaldo was given freedom, there is next to nothing to complain about our defense. Based on their performances we would have 3rd place guaranteed by now...
Even in this unfortunate Brighton game, it was Romero who was most at fault for the goal. So yea - Dier really has earned some praise and respect. Despite personal biases.
We have the 4th best defence in the PL, in terms of goals conceded.

Every player can be upgraded but to call 2 of our 3 main CBs dog shit just shows how little some people know about the game.
 
Bastoni would be class, but I'm not convinced that Gvardiol would be value for money.

Firstly he's reportedly going to be more expensive than Bastoni according to The Athletic; secondly he had a torrid time in the semi vs Rangers as Leipzig got knocked out.
 
I’m not as enamoured as some seem to be with him. I think he’s benefitting greatly from not being Moura, which is understandable, 4 years of human pin ball will do that to you.

He’s definitely more composed than Moura, which is a plus, and he’s got some physical heft when it comes to protecting the ball, but Kilusevski only seems to have amble as a speed setting, and doesn’t seem to have the pace or technique to actually dribble past people or, at least, stay past them.

He’s brought something different, but I’m yet to be blown away.
3 goals and 8 assists in his first half season (not even). That’s remarkably productive output for someone new to PL.

Smith Rowe has 12 goals and 3 assists in almost twice as many minutes this season. They’re the same age.

He’s not an electric player but the early signs are extremely positive.
 
I’m not as enamoured as some seem to be with him. I think he’s benefitting greatly from not being Moura, which is understandable, 4 years of human pin ball will do that to you.

He’s definitely more composed than Moura, which is a plus, and he’s got some physical heft when it comes to protecting the ball, but Kilusevski only seems to have amble as a speed setting, and doesn’t seem to have the pace or technique to actually dribble past people or, at least, stay past them.

He’s brought something different, but I’m yet to be blown away.

I can see your point.
And to my eyes he did struggle with pace in Liverpool game - with first steps Pool defenders and midfielders got too close to him and he could not proceed. So he has some limitations.

At the same time I feel you are not doing justice to his output. I agree with your assessment of "human pin ball" regarding Moura - no one knows to which direction will the ball bounce off from his feet. But Deki has done more than this comparison suggests. To be better than pin-ball reference, it would have been enough to help us retain the possession and maybe play some cleaver passes. But in reality Deki has been laying out assists in nice frequency. He has set up 8 goals within 1200 minutes on the field. While Moura has managed 15 across 7733 minutes. One has assist for 150 minutes on field, other 515 minutes. At that - Deki had to get used to new league, while Moura has been here for years. When he first joined, he was trusted to only play 208 minutes of football and he provided 1 assist (no goals) in his debut season.

So yea- from one hand - comparison with Moura will put Deki in good light. On the other hand, his actual output is totally from different dimention as well. So he is not just slight upgrade. It is closer to switch from playing 10 against 11 and having 11th player added to team..
 
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