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We can do the deeper defence in numbers and still have better possession. One of the reasons we end up penned in is that when the ball goes to PEH, Benta etc. they cough up the ball under any pressure.
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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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Considering the similarities in quoted price and player profile/quality between Richarlison and Raphinha, it seems to me that clear differentiator is that Richarlison can play all across the front 3 whereas Raphinha is a pretty much only a RW. Love both as talents, but Richarlison just makes more sense squad wise.
The dream would be to sell both Bergwijn and Moura and replace them with both Richarlison and Raphinha. That would be the City/Liverpool model of having 5 attackers that are essentially interchangeable and first team quality and all 5 make a relatively similar number of appearances over the course of the season.
Despite the impressive ambition shown this summer, I’m not sure we quite have money, pull, and prestige to pull off the City/Liverpool model quite yet. But maybe Conte and the investment could help keep all 5 happy and content to rotate to share time. With Son and Kane getting older, we should be prioritizing rotation options for them to lighten their workload and elongate their prime years.
Still barring that, think Richarlison should be the clear priority over Raphinha just because of his versatility and our squad needs.
The dream would be to sell both Bergwijn and Moura and replace them with both Richarlison and Raphinha. That would be the City/Liverpool model of having 5 attackers that are essentially interchangeable and first team quality and all 5 make a relatively similar number of appearances over the course of the season.
Despite the impressive ambition shown this summer, I’m not sure we quite have money, pull, and prestige to pull off the City/Liverpool model quite yet. But maybe Conte and the investment could help keep all 5 happy and content to rotate to share time. With Son and Kane getting older, we should be prioritizing rotation options for them to lighten their workload and elongate their prime years.
Still barring that, think Richarlison should be the clear priority over Raphinha just because of his versatility and our squad needs.
Also, such a fan of the profile of player we seem to be after. Bissouma, Perisic, Spence, Richarlison, and a few others are further steps towards building the physical, pacy, big, and tough team we had in the best of the Pochettino years.
Those sides weren't perfect and probably lacked some guile at times, but they were a bitch to play against and we could dominate teams with our physicality and pace at times. Walker, Rose, Dier, Dembele, Wanyana, Dele, Son, and Kane during that time had elite combinations of power, pace, and physicality.
Conte's teams have always had players like that in them and with the introduction and improvement of Romero, Kulusevski, Skipp, Sess, and Bentancur under Conte you could see a return of that type of team and ethos, though still incomplete. Adding Bissouma, Perisic, Spence, Richarlison, and hopefully a dominant LCB will be such a clear return to the aggressive powerful style that we've been missing the last few years. We'll be deeply unpleasant to play against.
I'm not saying this team is perfect, but you're not going to push them around or outmatch them athletically, just won't happen.
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Spence Romero Dier Bremer (?) Perisic
Bissouma Bentancur
Kulusevski Kane Son
With Richarlison, Eriksen, Sessegnon, Skipp, Hojbjerg, Sarr, and probably another attacking signing as sub options.
Those sides weren't perfect and probably lacked some guile at times, but they were a bitch to play against and we could dominate teams with our physicality and pace at times. Walker, Rose, Dier, Dembele, Wanyana, Dele, Son, and Kane during that time had elite combinations of power, pace, and physicality.
Conte's teams have always had players like that in them and with the introduction and improvement of Romero, Kulusevski, Skipp, Sess, and Bentancur under Conte you could see a return of that type of team and ethos, though still incomplete. Adding Bissouma, Perisic, Spence, Richarlison, and hopefully a dominant LCB will be such a clear return to the aggressive powerful style that we've been missing the last few years. We'll be deeply unpleasant to play against.
I'm not saying this team is perfect, but you're not going to push them around or outmatch them athletically, just won't happen.
Lloris
Spence Romero Dier Bremer (?) Perisic
Bissouma Bentancur
Kulusevski Kane Son
With Richarlison, Eriksen, Sessegnon, Skipp, Hojbjerg, Sarr, and probably another attacking signing as sub options.
Yeah hell of a talent and physically built for the Prem. When he's McKennie's age, he'll be a better player.
Musah is so raw currently though. I'd love him as buy to loan player and just leave him at Valencia for another year or two. McKennie could contribute now and I doubt Musah could just yet, though I doubt we'll be after McKennie if Bissouma and Eriksen do get wrapped up.
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Richarlison also has played 4 seasons in the PL for Everton, and scored at a relatively consistent 10 to 13 goals. Raphina has only had 2 seasons.
If the 150m cash injection is real we should be able to afford both. We will get 100m or more if we sell all the deadwood and fringe players like Rodon, Gil, Regui, Emerson etc. Incomings should cost around 200m if we get both Raphina and Richy.
Net spend of 100m (excluding bonuses for free signigns) would be VERY doable. It's just taht you're not gonna sell 6 to 10 players, bring in 6 in a single window. Convincing Lucas to leave is very unlikely, convincing Raphina that he won't just be a bench option won't be easy.
Yeah that’s fair enough. In that case let’s have him and loan him back!
Yeah I think your last sentence is the main reason it won't happen. We'd have the money for transfers fees, as you laid out. But it's a lot easier for City/Liverpool to convince a top player to be potentially a 4th or 5th option up front because they can basically guarantee trophies and have a different level wage structure than we do.
We have a lot of positive things to sell at the moment, but getting two top level Premier League proven attackers seems probably a bridge too far. I will continue to dream it though.
To me, Musah is the best long term talent on the USMNT.
Our selling situation this summer is also so different than normal. All the players we're likely to part with are under 26, regular internationals, have actual sell on value, and will be going to competitive clubs in top leagues. None of them are the deadwood we're normally desperately trying to flog and if the right deal doesn't develop, I'd be totally fine keeping any of them. Except maybe Ndombele but that's just because of his wages and because he's given up on his footballing career.
Reguilon, Lo Celso, Emerson, and maybe Gil will likely all go for good money to Spanish clubs trying to compete for a UCL spot. Rodon and Winks will go to decent English sides, likely midtable for solid money. Bergwijn is a likely starter for the Dutch national team at this year's World Cup and Ajax will likely eventually cave and pay us 25m. We're dealing from a position of strength.
But the best part is we aren't waiting around for this to happen before getting our business started.
Reguilon, Lo Celso, Emerson, and maybe Gil will likely all go for good money to Spanish clubs trying to compete for a UCL spot. Rodon and Winks will go to decent English sides, likely midtable for solid money. Bergwijn is a likely starter for the Dutch national team at this year's World Cup and Ajax will likely eventually cave and pay us 25m. We're dealing from a position of strength.
But the best part is we aren't waiting around for this to happen before getting our business started.
That’s him going to Man U then. Ffs.
Levy is in the Bahamas keeping Lewis distracted. Resorting to more elaborate and cartoonish ploys as time goes on.Has anyone actually seen Lewis and Levy since the end of the season? Are they tied up in Paratici's basement?
We have no idea of knowing that. We don't know the investigation. We don't know Brighton's motives for keeping him in the squad. We don't know anything. I hope the club knows more.
If not, I think it would have been much better to wait for an all-clear before signing him.
If they get him for a decent price I hope Spurs sign him (and Destiny Udogie) - and then loan him out for a season ( to another EPL club or a club in the Bundesliga).
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yeah, we're all just guessing, and hoping.
Still, it's not worth nothing that he's treated so lightly by the authorities while Mendy and Greenwood are not. The accusation itself doesn't seem to be rape, but sexual assault (groping or some sort of unwanted advance).
So there's reason to hope that we've not just signed up a fucking rapist.