Not disagreeing that those two wouldn’t elevate us to another level, but if we’re going to keep stating games like we did today then we won’t be anywhere near challenging them, regardless of who else we bring in.
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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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I agree I don’t think chalobah is worth the aggravation but I can see the new firm doing business with us …. One of the big investors is a big spurs fan so im sure he’s familiar with some of our board
That said when do the top six do business with each other? (Sterling)
Boehly might pander to the gallery early doors but I can’t see the overt enmity carrying over
We tried that with winks …. Even big Darth stubbed his toe trying to force that one throughHe is the left back you are looking for.
I’m
good. Sell one, anyone and loan too.
Comes across as indifferent at best imo.. if he didn’t want him to go he wouldn’t give the club the option to sell him
If it’s up to the board then he’s at some point given them the nod …. No ? …. For the right money ?
I think this is it …. Although not in.a nutshell
60mil is an enormous outlay for a player (however good) that doesn’t go into or compete directly with a place in the chosen system
Maddison I agree allows you play a different system, though un preferred so becomes a 60m sub to be brought on in the final 20mins to mix it up
I think this would also have been the reason. ultimately why we didn’t pursue Eriksen
I’d have him at spurs everyday of the week …. I’d also be concerned if partey departs in the manner he should that woolwich would bid for him
Watford to Villa might be seen as an upgrade, and not sure Sarr would attract a top 6 or 8 club, so Villa is next rung down
Far too few rumours for those still hanging about
Particularly Reggie. Someone should want and be able to make a deal for him
He’s still half decent
Particularly Reggie. Someone should want and be able to make a deal for him
He’s still half decent
Villa are currently the perfect stepping stone club if you nail it
They can’t argue that one’s head wouldn’t be turned if any of tbd top 6 came in for the player
And for the player it’s a sound club good wage and it’s standard at where if you outperform then the top clubs are gonna be in for ya
Sensible move for sarr whilst the bigger clubs have doubts
Logic - the school of not Russel I see. First sentence you say we won't change followed in the next by a proposed change which you've seen occur in games.
Also we don't really play a 343, we play 5 at the back with the wing Backs getting forward when we have the ball. When we don't have the ball they drop into a back line, being backs an all that. Also when we play shit the problem with wing backs is they bring nothing to the game.
Bents and Hoj seldom get overrun.... except they did against Chelsea and they did for a fair bit of the game today..... The problem is once a team is shown up, other teams learn fast. We had a similar issue at the end of Poches rain and with Maureen. While I understand you possibly think footballers may not be the smartest, manager are generally smart enough to see how other teams win games.
I love kulu, but I do believe he is wide player, and frankly also believe he looks better when he sits deeper he almost is a wide mf/winger of old. Today though he was too often up top doing little first half. I personally believe in a game like today playing a another midfielder would have made the game easier for us. Conte himself pointed thier MF out as dangerous.... Its suggests he knows we lost the battle there, 2 v 3...
There's def. something phallic about the name Todd...... Perhaps it's just short for todger?
I said Conte won't change his system. That's a fact. Occasionally switching it up to allowing three in midfield or mid game to a 424 isn't changing his system. It's adapting to his opponent. Neither of which particularly suit Maddison.
Potatoe, potato.
343, 523. Whatever, I guess.
"And if they do, it's because the opponents tactics have been spot on or have specifically targeted midfield as a way of beating us"
Chelsea specifically targeted the midfield by making a 4 man square around our midfield two, using their right wing back in the process. There's a reason 18 other Premier League teams don't try the exact same trick.
Wolves didn't overrun our midfield at all today. They were just braver on the ball in possession when they did have it. Hence why in the second half when Conte had clearly grilled them at half time, did we boss that midfield entirely. So much so that they tried to switch things up by taking Moutinho off.
The issues we had under Poch and Mourinho are nothing like any sort of problem we have under Conte. Poch for most of the end of his tenure and Mourinho had Winks and Sissoko in midfield. One of the worst central midfield pairings any team aspiring for a top four finish have ever had. They actually did regularly get overrun because Sissoko was horrible positionally and Winks was awful at defending transitions and covering large amounts of space quickly.
Conte has no such problem because Hojbjerg and Bentancur are fantastic at what they do and what's asked of them. We've played against a midfield three of Man City, a midfield three of Liverpool. Two of the best teams in the country and not once were they ever overran. It's actually rare to see it happen.
I've always wanted to see Kulusevski central for us, personally.
I've wanted us to play a 352. Sorry, a 5212. With Kulusevski playing central behind Kane and Son and wing backs that attack. But we haven't seemed to try that out as of yet. Which surprises me considering Conte's preference of that particular formation at Inter Milan and Kulusevski wanting to be more of a #10.
The fact Conte didn't bring Bissouma on sooner tells me that he knew midfield wasn't an issue. In that first half in particular, we were constantly looking to just start again, stop the ball, or hook an aimless clip down the line just to relieve pressure. It was the players choice to not play with any bollocks and to lack courage in that first half. They showed more in that second half and you could tell in the performance.
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Oh I don’t know, he has a very good goal and assist record, EPL proven, hes HG, he plays in a position where we literally don’t have a single player (AM)…..need anything else?
What are Maddisons defensive numbers like? How good is he defending transitions? What's his pressing like? Can he play in a midfield two? Who does he replace in our current starting eleven that would warrant spending £60,000,000+ on him?
I feel like these are important questions to ask when it comes to signing James Maddison. Especially when spending a lot on someone who doesn't necessarily suit what we do.
It's all good looking at his goals and assists for an average Leicester team. But you could also go and have a look at Bruno Fernandes' or Dele Alli's goals and assists column from select seasons and think you're getting something. When really, you're not.
And I actually like Maddison as a player. Just don't think he suits us at all. I actually liken it a bit to signing Emerson Royal to play in a team that plays offensive wing backs.
Issue with that is he'll eventually just run his contract down and they'd get even less than they would have done if they priced him reasonably.
His contract runs out in 2024. Which means at the end of the season, he'll have 1 year left on his contract. And they'll probably barely get half of what they've quoted clubs in the past.
Neves is a good player though. I'd take him here if we didn't have the midfield options we had. Was surprised to hear he's only about year younger than Hojbjerg.