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Transfers Summer 2022 Transfer Thread.
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They were all over us and winning 1-0 until they went down to ten men on 39mins.... Their press was insane (as it has been a few times we've faced them under Hassenhuttel).
They're still naturally found out wide though, meaning that the central 2 are typically the ones faced with the oppos central 3 (or 2+1 if they're playing 4231).....
Very rarely will you see our WBs cutting inside to help fight off a central press as each flank will naturally be populated 1 or 2 players (depending on oppo formation).... Not unless they're pressed right back and making up a 5 man back-line and they're doubling up players with the outer CBs (in whcih case they're more likely engaging with the oppo front line and/or an overload from their FB/WBs).
So his insane work-rate and all-winning was of no significant consequence to Chavs & Lester's title wins?
......I think that's crazy talk, with all due respect.
(Slow on the ball is one thing.... But being quick enough on the ball to consistently counteract the 'numbers game' is quite the opposite extreme.)
I totally disagree (that's not a primary attribute of either player), but hey....
Exactly my point.
You've now found yourself referring to "press resistance"; this is very much key to what I've been saying all along....
Bissouma is my big hope in all this too.
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Looks like no chance of Traore now, apparently he's taking up tennis.
no no hhes big e in wwe im sureLooks like no chance of Traore now, apparently he's taking up tennis.
Again, I wouldn't say all over us. We had more possession, completed more passes, had more shots on goal and were extremely unlucky.
If we struggle with a teams press though, it's because we're simply too slow on the ball and fail to compose ourselves. That's changed and improved alot with Bentancur in there partnering Hojbjerg.
It's also very rare to see two of those three mark one man though. Usually its either one advanced in front of a two that never usually impose themselves defensively anyway or one just sitting off them.
So by moving the ball quickly, you can bypass at least two of those players by being brave and confident in your own abilities.
Now it does mean a team can bypass our midfield press because of the spare man, but that's not necessarily a problem, dependent on the reaction of said midfielders as well as the concentration levels and the push of the defence now faced with the opponent.
I think Conte has us set up very well for this. Which is why he's so confident in playing the 343 and those two in mdifield specifically.
I never said that.
But Kante was never slow on the ball. He was always in control of the game. If he didnt beat a press with his low centre of gravity, he'd get that ball away within seconds.
I didn't mention work rate. Hojbjerg and Bentancur have fantastic work rate.
My point was that you don't need a press resistant central midfielder to be successful if you have midfielders who can move the ball quickly and show bravery with it.
The ball moves faster than any player. However at times we've just been far too lax in possession. Especially in the middle areas of the field. But I also think our wing backs haven't helped either.
Not one fan in the UK would have a fucking clue who he was a couple of weeks ago, not one.
We all rave about players from all over Europe but i can't find a single sentence about Anthony anywhere this transfer window until those fucking idiots paid stupid money.
United would have been better payimg Harrlands release clause and handing him a thirty million signing on fee.
Were gonna need a bigger stadium............
So, is this our current squad? By the looks of it, we cannot sign any more foreign players and we lose 2 squad spots for being under quota on home grown numbers + Davies and Doherty not home grown in Europe competitions?
Association trained: Davies, Doherty, Austin , Sessegnon, Foster
Club trained: Kane,Winks, Tanganga, Skipp
Foreign: Royal, Dier, Højbjerg, Lloris, Moura, Sánchez, Son Heung-min, Romero, Golini, Kulusevski, Bentancaur, Peresic, Bissouma, Richarlison, Lenglet
U21: excluded from squad count (Gil, Sarr, Spence)
Total : 22 (up to 25)
HOMEGROWN : 7 (min 8 of which 4 club trained)
FOREIGN : 15 (max 17)
PENTALTY : minus 2 for missing homegrown quotas
Association trained: Davies, Doherty, Austin , Sessegnon, Foster
Club trained: Kane,
Foreign: Royal, Dier, Højbjerg, Lloris, Moura, Sánchez, Son Heung-min, Romero, Golini, Kulusevski, Bentancaur, Peresic, Bissouma, Richarlison, Lenglet
U21: excluded from squad count (Gil, Sarr, Spence)
Total : 22 (up to 25)
HOMEGROWN : 7 (min 8 of which 4 club trained)
FOREIGN : 15 (max 17)
PENTALTY : minus 2 for missing homegrown quotas
This is why we’re keeping Tanganga, he becomes #8.
Just woke up in the middle of the night in a cold, terrifying sweat thinking about how far the opposition will stand off an Adama/Emerson right wing. Each player will be given 20 yards of space to cross the ball. They will average 9.73 turnovers per match and complete 0.34 successful crosses combined. It will be the least successful interplay in England since they tried to sell us on Pippa and Kate Middleton.
I can’t believe we are seriously considering this guy. At Barça he was immediately sussed out, back off him and wall him off with two men. Make him beat you with an early cross, keep him wide. He will slow down our play, make crap decisions, and put forth brainless passing and lose the ball 15 times per match.
No other big club would dare sign him. Why oh why are we doing this???
I can’t believe we are seriously considering this guy. At Barça he was immediately sussed out, back off him and wall him off with two men. Make him beat you with an early cross, keep him wide. He will slow down our play, make crap decisions, and put forth brainless passing and lose the ball 15 times per match.
No other big club would dare sign him. Why oh why are we doing this???
"wall him off with two men."
You may have hit the nail on the head there. When he came on against us, we immediately swapped out Perisic for Sessegnon and had 3 players smother him as soon as he got the ball.
2 or 3 men on Traore means 2 or 3 men no longer marking Kane and Son.
If we can get him for 10-15m its a no brainer. He's only 26 years old. Whilst he may be limited, his one trick can be very impressive in the right system.
He’s going to be deadweight in less than 12 months, he can’t effectively pass the ball to others even if they are in space, offers less than zero incisive vision or end product, and essentially compounds every single issue we have with possessing the ball and slow decision making.
Imagine Kulu does his ankle for a month or two. We’re going to roll Adama out there for a CL or PL match? What exactly do you think is going to happen? He’s an element of chaos but we are far too good of a side to actually pay money and use a wild card runner like that.
He'd be so fun though.
He's also one of the few players in the league, aside from Salah, Son, and now, (maybe) Haaland, that seems to absolutely terrify opponents.
I think he'd be wasted as WB -- don't think he has the cardio/engine for job. Maybe as a sub for 25-30 minutes if we need a spark/some chaos?
IMO, Adama's given us the most problems when he was playing (or given the freedom to roam) centrally.
I actually think he'd be most useful as a situational #9. Specifically, when up against a side that will likely dominate possession and have significant numbers in his side's half. I'd rather have him at the halfway line, battling opposing CBs for clearances with tons of space behind, as opposed to playing defense in his own penalty box as a WB.
Kane’s reaction to Sess this weekend, x4 times a game with Traore. Although, the guy is an incredibly powerful dribbler. Who knows how this will turn out if he arrives.
If Kulu is out, I'd expect Richarlison would start up top with Son and Kane would drop back as creator.
I'd see Adama as a bench option when we are chasing a goal and struggling to break through a defensive block.
Realistically, if we are looking for a player that could compete with Kulu to start; we'd be expecting to pay 50m+. If Adama can be had for 10-15, we'd get our money back no problem.
Rumours that Zaha is also on strike to force a move somewhere.
The other name doing the rounds for us is Tammy Abraham.
This is bollocks. He takes the ball the length of the pitch. Half the time it ends up with a totally innept team mate. Wolves have been a very low scoring team for years and that's not on Traore. Fuck stats, he passes the eye test.
How many times against Chelsea, Wolves and even Forest did we get the ball in our own 3rd, get shut down and dispossessed immediately?
He can combat that. He can keep the ball and take it into their 3rd. We don't need him to put in Beckham style 45 yard crosses onto a tuppance. He just needs to release the ball to a team mate.