Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

[Richard Arlison]

And, with your logic, 150 million more ambitious than City.

At some point you have to get it through your thick heads that the amount of spending means fuck all, if it's not done smartly.

Until City bring in Paqueta and Doku. Also fails to account for the true cost of Haaland who really wasn't 50m.

If our squad didn't have glaring issues and donkeys still clogging up the squad places, I couldn't give a fuck about the net spend because it would feel like the football team had at least become a priority for once.

But Levy doesn't spend as much or as smartly as his rivals. And he's just sold a generational talent.

 

[FightingIllini]

Also fails to account for the true cost of Haaland who really wasn't 50m.

How do you figure?

 

[pleb]

Absolutely.

They are going to host friendly games at St James park with the Saudi NT playing. Geordies will pack that and support the Saudi team because they are so in love with the investment their new owners are bringing in.

Nothing like watching Geordie fans getting on their knees and acknowledging their new Middle Eastern Masters!

 

[Richard Arlison]

How do you figure?

His transfer fee was listed as 50m ish.

The agent fees, back door payments and bonuses offered to player (some outside his official salary via off shore shenanigans) took that transfer way above 150m

The 50m was just for FFP bullshitting.

 

[StripiestPilot]

View: https://twitter.com/SpursITKhub/status/1691829886376133026

That’s a normal kind of fee in the current market.

He’d be a fantastic signing but Levy will insist that he gets a “smart” deal from somewhere else instead of just paying the money.

 

[Macch]

View: https://twitter.com/SpursITKhub/status/1691829886376133026

 

[ArtyB]

Mate I still have sleepless nights trying to spell our managers name. I’ve decided to just call him Ange

Poste cog lou...

 

[FightingIllini]

His transfer fee was listed as 50m ish.

The agent fees, back door payments and bonuses offered to player (some outside his official salary via off shore shenanigans) took that transfer way above 150m

The 50m was just for FFP bullshitting.

You're conflating transfer fees and salary (and "other").

Borussia Dortmund received 50m (wasn't it more like 60?), the value of Haaland's release clause.

Every big club in the world was lining up to do the same. City paid all sorts to get to the front of that queue. That all counts in FFP terms, but not in net transfer spend terms.

 

[GGTH]

View: https://twitter.com/SpursITKhub/status/1691829886376133026

"SpursJourno" makes it sound like it's someone possibly credible, and then it's just Poseidon.

 

[NotThatTedHughes]

or as smartly as his rivals

Are we talking about his rivals that paid £97m for Lukaku or his rivals that paid £80m for Maguire or his rivals that paid £72n for Nicolas Pepe?

 

[Richard Arlison]

You're conflating transfer fees and salary (and "other").

Borussia Dortmund received 50m (wasn't it more like 60?), the value of Haaland's release clause.

Every big club in the world was lining up to do the same. City paid all sorts to get to the front of that queue. That all counts in FFP terms, but not in net transfer spend terms.

It was fishy all round. Haaland signed a contract extension the year before that reduced his release clause to 50m.

That transfer may have officially cost a 60m transfer fee but it was never in a million years a 60m transfer.

Sign on bonuses don't count as salary btw.

 

[Richard Arlison]

Are we talking about his rivals that paid £97m for Lukaku or his rivals that paid £80m for Maguire or his rivals that paid £72n for Nicolas Pepe?

Imagine finding a way to spend worse than clowns like that?

You almost wouldn't believe it's possible.

But we still can't shift our deadwood.

 

[Richard Arlison]

That’s a normal kind of fee in the current market.

He’d be a fantastic signing but Levy will insist that he gets a “smart” deal from somewhere else instead of just paying the money.

Not convinced Levy would make Eze our transfer record.

 

[Get in!]

Since Qatar played in the Copa America, I think we can assume anything is possible in football if the right money is offered.

CONMEBOL is weird. There have been national team outside it that have participated in the Copa America in past years so I wouldn't read too much into that.

 

[FightingIllini]

It was fishy all round. Haaland signed a contract extension the year before that reduced his release clause to 50m.

What's fishy about that?

Dortmund guaranteed themselves another year of Haaland, a healthy wedge of money at the end of it, and Haaland guaranteed himself free movement among the many elite clubs happy to pay that and much more for his services.

 

[Rebrov_Likes]

CONMEBOL is weird. There have been national team outside it that have participated in the Copa America in past years so I wouldn't read too much into that.

Stuff like this, the summer tournaments, the super league, Saudis - it's all moving one way. Football will not stay in a nice little regional box. Christ, one day, PL teams could even be franchises moved about on financial whims. Nothing would surprise me.

 

[Airfixx]

His transfer fee was listed as 50m ish.

The agent fees, back door payments and bonuses offered to player (some outside his official salary via off shore shenanigans) took that transfer way above 150m

To a greater or lesser extent; every deal is subject to wages, agent fees and extras too.

(Can't remember when now; but not so long ago Man U were reported to have spent near 100m on agent fees alone in one year!)

.......Do the above figures include loan fees for all the respective clubs? ........Any other player-related financial quirks? I shan't pretend to know; but as is typical, once one start's pulling at the threads of any 'easy hit' set of figures; the complexity of the true picture renders them rather superficial (...Not unlike the whole "what window does x player get attributed to" crap-fest when it boils down to actual cashflow, rather than projected annual budgets).

The 50m was just for FFP bullshitting.

Nah, you're getting that muddled... 50m was trf fee payable to BVB..... The rest of the money you're describing didn't go down the same channel.

Yes, his agent set a low release clause with BVB that allowed Haaland the chance to max out his earning and retain max freedom of movement, but it was never a case of simply "whack it all into wages so the fee doesn't wreck Man Cs FFP from the trf fee end"..... That's just a convenient up-shot.

 

[Get in!]

Until City bring in Paqueta and Doku. Also fails to account for the true cost of Haaland who really wasn't 50m.

If our squad didn't have glaring issues and donkeys still clogging up the squad places, I couldn't give a fuck about the net spend because it would feel like the football team had at least become a priority for once.

But Levy doesn't spend as much or as smartly as his rivals. And he's just sold a generational talent.

He spends. He doesn't spend smartly. By the looks of it that's changing. Hopefully that continues, but there's still going to be the odd dud.

 

[r-u-s-x]

CONMEBOL is weird. There have been national team outside it that have participated in the Copa America in past years so I wouldn't read too much into that.

They invited teams since 1993, Qatar paid to be that invited team no doubt

 

[Spursidol]

View: https://twitter.com/SpursITKhub/status/1691829886376133026

No chance of anyone bidding anything like that in cash.

If I were Spurs I might try a bid of cash and player(s) - for example £40m and Spence and maybe White.

Both players that Palace could play and develop, plus they spend cash to bring in their first recruits of window.

Not sure its worth pushing more if Palace are not receptive : likely he'll cost less in the next window with less time left on his contract