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Haaland deal was easily over a hundred million once you consider agent fees, signing on fees etc.

People stating it was cheap have no idea what they are talking about
This is such a strange hang-up people have.

The agents fees for Haaland were widely reported as an unprecedented and ridiculous 34M, on top of the 51M owed to Dortmund for the release clause.

In theory that added payment should be considered as part of the transfer expenditure, though reportedly half of it went to Haaland's father, so that bit might be more properly categorized as a signing on bonus, which seems like it would clearly fall on the wages/player payment side of the ledger.

That still takes it up to only 85M.

Haaland cost City less than Kane cost Bayern.

But it's very important to some people to bullshit their way to that having secretly been the financial equivalent of the Neymar to PSG deal or what the Saudis were offering Messi or something.

The reality that Haaland is choosing his career path very intelligently and carefully and that while major investment was required, City won the rights to Haaland at well below the potential market price because of Haaland's faith in the Guardiola project (he reportedly has a release clause which activates if Pep goes).

That offends the delicate sensibilites of people who want sovereign wealth to be the omnipotent evil overlord of the football world, I guess.

Sorry folks, sovereign wealth sucks, but life is complicated.
 
The primary appeal of Orban to be most will be the fact they’ve never seen him. The unknown, the mystery. Johnson is a known factor and that’s less interesting.

Happens all the time where a signing from abroad is considered sexier than a domestic one of the same level.
Flipside of that is your always paying way more for HG or prem proven players.
If Johnson was playing in France or Germany he’s not a £50m player.

I’ll be honest, it worries me how many people in here and how many of the better Spurs analysis accounts aren’t excited by Johnson.


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Flipside of that is your always paying way more for HG or prem proven players.
If Johnson was playing in France or Germany he’s not a £50m player.

I’ll be honest, it worries me how many people in here and how many of the better Spurs analysis accounts aren’t excited by Johnson.


View: https://x.com/belgian_hotspur/status/1694422622761578607?s=46&t=DK3x3JffKkqwqcsQdIeO_A


I’m not sold on Johnson tbh. He’s really quick but I don’t think he really gives us that little something extra in attack.

But I maintain that the hunger from our fans for the Orban signing is mostly down to the attraction to the unknown. It’s exciting to sign someone you’ve never watched, maybe he’s the new Ronaldo … or Bebe, but who knows.

I want Toney. He’s good. Shame about the betting ban.
 
I’m not sold on Johnson tbh. He’s really quick but I don’t think he really gives us that little something extra in attack.

But I maintain that the hunger from our fans for the Orban signing is mostly down to the attraction to the unknown. It’s exciting to sign someone you’ve never watched, maybe he’s the new Ronaldo … or Bebe, but who knows.

I want Toney. He’s good. Shame about the betting ban.
Johnson is quick but in a straight line and no real change of pace. I just think its an unimaginative signing of convenience. I could be wrong. Hope I am.

Orban, I’ll be fully honest, I really like the story and the footage I’ve seen looks like ball striking and pace that could translate to ANY level of the game. I see it as a low risk punt on a young player that may or may not work out.

Toney profiles very much like Kane but not as good. We don’t really need a drop deep 9/10 hybrid that gets in Maddison’s way. Both Kane and Toney work well as the main focus of a very direct, counter attack team. I don’t see the fit with a possession team. He also said he wants to play for Woolwich so fuck him and he’s getting older now.

I don’t know there is a perfect striker out there for us this summer tbh
 
Shaping up to be a disappointing window.

Just not enough time now to get everything we need done.

I'd take Sanchez + 25m for Johnson because, well, why not. At least if gives us some legs to alternate with Kulu's snail pace. But any more cash than that and we've been bent over.

If we ship out big Dav then we obvs need to sign another CB. Can't believe middling Tosin is the strongest fucking link we have. Must be someone better out there. I'm hoping for a left field Bentancur-esque signing to pop up late on.

We won't sell anyone imo.
PEH will stay and loans for the rest of the bums.

Dier will hang around like a bad fart for another year.
 
Boehly is deliberately planning on breaking FFP, the fine they get will be the cost of business, and getting fined £20m-£50m is the cost of business.
They will absolutely be banned from Europe if found in violation of FFP, and the idea that there's some double-secret Saudi intervention that would prevent that is laughable internet-brain.

I see exactly what Boehly is up to here. I am Mindhunter for halfwit American finance doofuses.
 
Richarlison was good before we signed him. Who's to say Johnson won't shine under Ange? 22 years old and playing in a poor Forest side.
Richarlison had scored 7 and 10 goals the two seasons before we signed him. Excuses can be made that he was at everton etc etc but those numbers cant be categorised as good. Same with Johnson's 8 goals. Nothing that exciting at all.
 
They will absolutely be banned from Europe if found in violation of FFP, and the idea that there's some double-secret Saudi intervention that would prevent that is laughable internet-brain.

I see exactly what Boehly is up to here. I am Mindhunter for halfwit American finance doofuses.

Maybe both things are true.....?

Maybe Boehly is as dumb as you say and thinks the FFP fine won't result in a Euro ban?
 
Haaland deal was easily over a hundred million once you consider agent fees, signing on fees etc.

People stating it was cheap have no idea what they are talking about
So the fee was reported as 60M euros.

Declan Rice was just sold for 105M pounds

Are you saying one of those reported fees includes agent fees, signing on fees, etc,(Rice) while the other (Haaland) doesn't?

Or are you saying that Declan Rice really is worth 40-50 million more than Haaland?

Regardless of what the fee actually ended up being, we can only go based off of what's reported (unless you have links documenting those other fees), and in a world where Rice goes for over 100M quid, Haaland is easily worth 125+ at a minimum IMO.
 
Are you saying one of those reported fees includes agent fees, signing on fees, etc,(Rice) while the other (Haaland) doesn't?
I don't want to undermine your correct general observation, but in this case that's actually true.

Reported transfer fees are generally inclusive of the agent's cut, but because the Dortmund release clause in Haaland's case was so well known, the two numbers became separated.

To get on my soapbox, none of this has to be as hidden as it is. Part of FFP could and should be UEFA having a public clearinghouse of this information.

in a world where Rice goes for over 100M quid, Haaland is easily worth 125+ at a minimum IMO.
200 without breaking a sweat.

BUUUT that would mean signing a 6+ year deal without attainable release clauses.

At every step of his career the Haaland entourage has ensured their ability to choose the next move for themselves in Haaland's interests, while of course also enriching themselves to the extent available.
 
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