The entire point of having a DOF is that he picks the players. You may remember Conte saying “club signing “ a few times
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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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The entire point of having a DOF is that he picks the players. You may remember Conte saying “club signing “ a few times
If we miss top four then I honestly do not care if we make a summer signing if it means we can finally sell deadweight. We are so desperate to clear out some guys it should be the top priority.
Dier, Winks, Ndombele, GLC, Lloris, Sanchez, Perisic, Sessegnon, Moura, Lenglet. A few are leaving already due to loans expiring or contacts ending but the rest need sold.
Back from loan that could give squad depth: Rodon, Spence, Scarlet, White, Parrot, Udogie, Reguilon.
I have not watched Reguilon or Rodon at all on loan so no idea if they have improved but due to lack of depth, they could be useful if it means getting current players out.
Dier, Winks, Ndombele, GLC, Lloris, Sanchez, Perisic, Sessegnon, Moura, Lenglet. A few are leaving already due to loans expiring or contacts ending but the rest need sold.
Back from loan that could give squad depth: Rodon, Spence, Scarlet, White, Parrot, Udogie, Reguilon.
I have not watched Reguilon or Rodon at all on loan so no idea if they have improved but due to lack of depth, they could be useful if it means getting current players out.
Just not true
They’ve regressed. Have nothing to offer
DOF is supposed to work with the manager to pick players.
Yea, I just went through and looked at their stats. Udogie and Spence are the only players on loan performing well.
Hopefully Devine or someone from the U18’s breaks into the squad.
I do. Not convinced by it as yet given the current circumstances, and is Paratici even sticking around for the long term?
I agree with your first para.
But not with the second. I've watched him in many, many games...live on TV but also from my seat at the stadium. Last night's thrashing of the Netherlands was a prime example of how precious he is to his team by being the first man to activate the press. It wasn't Mbappe or Kolo Muani or Coman...it was Griezou. And even on the rare occasions the Dutch were able to beat the press, it was he who was there to put a tackle in or intercept in his own half. Besides, he can play off different types of strikers: fast, tricky ones like Mbappe or more old school bullies like Giroud.
He really is a superb player and I don't care he failed at Barca, cause they're a special club (I don't mean that in a positive way). The fact he's not the new France captain is a travesty.
Anyway, I'd have him any day at Spurs.
Don't bank on it.
Our youth system is as weak as I've known it for many years.
Such a shame as its been a core value of the club to develop youngsters and see them come through, the neglect of the past 4 managers has resulted in a pretty poor youth setup and it goes back to not having a clear strategy with regards to the football operation.
France looked great yesterday. Nearly everyone in the squad is 23-26 years old (apart from Griezmann, Rabiot, Giroud and the keepers) so there’s a lot of progression to come from the group too.
Here are some great young players who haven’t had a cap yet.
Islam Meslier - Leeds. Coming up for 2 years left on contract. If Leeds go down then I think we should go for him. Capped at U21.
Lucas Chevalier - Lille’s first choice keeper this season and he’s just 21 (he was 20 at the start of the season).
Mohamed Simikan - very physical, aggressive centreback. Similar to Romero but not as good on the ball. Would love him as a Dier replacement. Maybe the one player on this list I would most like.
Anthony Rouault - I don’t know what’s happening in France but it’s centreback after centreback. 21 year old at Toulouse and already got 76 appearances. He needs one more club before he’s ready for a big club. I’d like to see him go to Germany.
Manu Koné - 21 year old CM. Starter for Borussia Mönchengladbach. We don’t need a CM desperately… he’s a bit too similar to Bissouma but with a touch of Ndombele’s dribbling. I think he will become a top player in a couple of years. High energy box to box and in the 99th percentile for successful dribbles in top 5 leagues. He’s excellent on the ball but also off the ball - second only to Jude Bellingham for duels won in Bundesliga.
Khephran Thuram - dm at nice but has been played at 10. Got his first cap for France yesterday. Not a position we need. Will shine somewhere else. Would make a great replacement for the rapist at Woolwich.
Desiré Doué - next big thing out of Rennes. They are playing really great football and he is a big part of that. He’s 17. I think we would ruin him so I’d rather he go to Real Madrid in 2024.
Two other 17 year olds, Mathys Tel (Bayern) and Zaïre-Emery (PSG) are already destined to only play at super clubs.
Maghnes Akliouche - talented attacking midfielder. Not getting enough minutes at Monaco and wants a move.
Khalil Fayad - this guy passed a baccalaureate so he’s smart for a footballer. Who cares but it shows he’s probably got a good support system which many other french talents don’t (like his teammate Eye Wahi). He’s France U21 captain too so he seems like a leader. He’s still just 18 but has appeared in 19 out of 28 games for Montpellier this season and has two assists. He is a central midfielder but with more attacking than defensive tendencies (whereas our midfield currently has central midfielders more comfortable defending). I don’t think I’ve seen his name mentioned as a wonder kid but he is one to watch.
Alan Virginius - 20 year old winger at Lille. Needs another 18-24 months to play and grow but he’s at a good club for it. He is right footed but plays off the left wing. If we sold Son in 2024 then he would be a good replacement. But I’d rather give Gil a chance!!
Rayan Cherki - My most controversial take. The guy is 19 and plays regularly for Lyon as an attacking midfielder. 3 goals and 4 assists. He’s playing for France U21 against England U21 today. Sell Kane if he doesn’t want to sign a new contract and bring this guy in if we get a manager committed to youth.
There’s too many good young players bouncing around. You can also watch Enzo Le Fée and Kalimuendo later against England U21. Both with good stats in ligue un.
Here are some great young players who haven’t had a cap yet.
Islam Meslier - Leeds. Coming up for 2 years left on contract. If Leeds go down then I think we should go for him. Capped at U21.
Lucas Chevalier - Lille’s first choice keeper this season and he’s just 21 (he was 20 at the start of the season).
Mohamed Simikan - very physical, aggressive centreback. Similar to Romero but not as good on the ball. Would love him as a Dier replacement. Maybe the one player on this list I would most like.
Anthony Rouault - I don’t know what’s happening in France but it’s centreback after centreback. 21 year old at Toulouse and already got 76 appearances. He needs one more club before he’s ready for a big club. I’d like to see him go to Germany.
Manu Koné - 21 year old CM. Starter for Borussia Mönchengladbach. We don’t need a CM desperately… he’s a bit too similar to Bissouma but with a touch of Ndombele’s dribbling. I think he will become a top player in a couple of years. High energy box to box and in the 99th percentile for successful dribbles in top 5 leagues. He’s excellent on the ball but also off the ball - second only to Jude Bellingham for duels won in Bundesliga.
Khephran Thuram - dm at nice but has been played at 10. Got his first cap for France yesterday. Not a position we need. Will shine somewhere else. Would make a great replacement for the rapist at Woolwich.
Desiré Doué - next big thing out of Rennes. They are playing really great football and he is a big part of that. He’s 17. I think we would ruin him so I’d rather he go to Real Madrid in 2024.
Two other 17 year olds, Mathys Tel (Bayern) and Zaïre-Emery (PSG) are already destined to only play at super clubs.
Maghnes Akliouche - talented attacking midfielder. Not getting enough minutes at Monaco and wants a move.
Khalil Fayad - this guy passed a baccalaureate so he’s smart for a footballer. Who cares but it shows he’s probably got a good support system which many other french talents don’t (like his teammate Eye Wahi). He’s France U21 captain too so he seems like a leader. He’s still just 18 but has appeared in 19 out of 28 games for Montpellier this season and has two assists. He is a central midfielder but with more attacking than defensive tendencies (whereas our midfield currently has central midfielders more comfortable defending). I don’t think I’ve seen his name mentioned as a wonder kid but he is one to watch.
Alan Virginius - 20 year old winger at Lille. Needs another 18-24 months to play and grow but he’s at a good club for it. He is right footed but plays off the left wing. If we sold Son in 2024 then he would be a good replacement. But I’d rather give Gil a chance!!
Rayan Cherki - My most controversial take. The guy is 19 and plays regularly for Lyon as an attacking midfielder. 3 goals and 4 assists. He’s playing for France U21 against England U21 today. Sell Kane if he doesn’t want to sign a new contract and bring this guy in if we get a manager committed to youth.
There’s too many good young players bouncing around. You can also watch Enzo Le Fée and Kalimuendo later against England U21. Both with good stats in ligue un.
Here we agree.
More than happy to be wrong about pressing. Atleti just don't do it much and Sevilla were so bad they didn't need to.
Where do these guys compare to Sarr before we signed him?
Not in our current set up.
Paratici is picking the players. It's up to the manager to make those players work.
Another reason Conte hasn't worked out here.
Sure we brought in Perisic (on a free) for Conte, but everyone else brought in this past window was a club signing.
Enzo Le Fee looks nifty, quite gritty for his size, height will probably limit what top clubs will take the chance on him. Have really liked the look of Rouault the few times I've seen him. Seen much of Albon Lafont? Seems to tick a or of boxes for gk. Cherki could end up a really top level player if attitude can match his ability. Thuram will be a good player for yrs to come.. good fit for any squad.
Devine looks like a genuine talent though.
Hard to compare because of age differences.
Some players similar or a touch behind like Fayad, Akliouche or Rouault.
Others rougher but with higher ceilings like Doué, Zaire-Emery and maybe Chevalier.
Others comfortably ahead although older like Thuram and Koné.
Cherki is ahead and the same age.
Thing with Sarr is he needs minutes. He’s a talented kid but if he had 25 league 1 starts this season he’d probably be ahead of where is now with us.
Needs to be given the chance and to take it though. Think we need to be more imaginative with our loans. Mason Mount really benefited from loan to Vittesse before his Championship loan at 19/20yo. Some lower level continental leagues with younger average age players than Championship and L1 might be a better first step from physically quite tame standard of academy.
100% agree. It only needs one bluebird to break through tho, alongside poss Devine
If he had 25 starts for us (ahead of PEH), both him and THFC would be ahead of where we are now