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nicoclaesen said:
Sign with a club because they are in the champions league only guarantees 6 games of football or less if you are injured or don’t start doesn’t make sense.
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If you’re in one of the top leagues, chances are that you get a minimum of 8 games with either a round of 16 fixture or at least two more EL games.
sudoku said:
Apparently none of Dier, Davies or Royal are up for sale.
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There’s no point in putting Dier up for sale if he’s categorically refused to move. We don’t have a lot of leverage unless he’s deluded enough to think he can win back his England spot at another club.
RealCoolYid said:
And yet no one wants dier. Not a fuckin sniff
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It doesn’t matter. He intends to stay ‘and fight for his place’. I’m not courting Margot Robbie without a hint that she might be interested.
 
Ionman34 said:
He was instrumental in our rise up the table. He has to have been as CEO.

I think he took his eye off the ball ('scuse the pun) during the stadium build. A project like that, which I believe he was into every detail on, will take up virtually all of your time. As a result, we've managed the Footballing side very poorly.

He's put us in a position where we are able to spend far beyond what we have ever been able to in our history, but I think he's trusted the wrong people to oversee the Footballing side. By the end of this window, we will have spent in excess of half a billion quid on transfers, but regressed regardless. Considering the player trading we did to get to actually challenging for a title, the failures over the past 4-5 years have been eye watering. We used to be able to pick a talent.

I put that down to Hitchen, but the buck ultimately stops with Levy.

Now that the stadium is up, running and generating the revenue required, his focus is more on the Football side of the business. That, to me, doesn't mean he's interfering in the Football, but that he's now restructuring to get back to that player trading success we had previously.

He's now invented a role for Munn, that provides yet another buffer between him and the team. We've had fans screaming for a DoF, but I suspect we already have him in Paratici. Take away the Juventus shenanigans, and what you have is a guy who actually does the job well. He might not be able to do the deals himself, but that doesn't stop him from advising/instructing the guys who can. So I think that the structure is there now, particularly with Ange joining it, whereby Levy's only real "involvement" in the Footballing side is to essentially set the budget and sign of on the cheques, so to speak. Of course, the Footballing management will still need to "sell" him the deal, but if they have data, scouting analysis and a manager saying "he's the one I want" to back it up, then we know Levy isn't afraid to sign off. He had to have sanctioned the Richarlison, Lo Celso and Ndombele purchases right? He's sanctioned over a half billion spend over the last few years FFS!

It's early days, I do think he's working along those lines, but I also believe that he has to be courageous, i.e. get in the right players regardless of what they cost.

I know you've already made your mind up on him, but mine will be made at the end of this window. If we bring in the requisite talent, addressing our glaring weaknesses, then I'll be more convinced that this is a true rebuild with an end goal in close sight. If we manage to do that within the set budget then great, but if we need to go over budget to get the right players in, but refuse to, then he'll have used up any goodwill I had towards him.
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Agree with a lot of that. I expect more output and focus from him but I read a bit how all Liverpool staff are all invested in the first team results amd pull in the same direction. Football staff aside, I just don’t him inspiring that same level of dedication from the bsckroom staff. Poch covered some cracks and Ange will too but I’ve worked under a stellar CEO and they really do inspire everyone.
 
Sean said:
Well we can't force him to leave can only come to agreement to pay up the remainder of the contract
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Quite. Taken to its logical conclusion, if Dier just dug his heels in 100% then you'd be left using tactics like freezing him out of the squad and making him train with the youth squad. I can't imagine that would go over well with the rest of the players, so wouldn't exactly be a good start to Ange's tenure.

He's got a year left on his contract, right? No Europe, so fewer games. Use him as a bench option/emergency depth.
 
Thin Lilywhite Duke said:
Quite. Taken to its logical conclusion, if Dier just dug his heels in 100% then you'd be left using tactics like freezing him out of the squad and making him train with the youth squad. I can't imagine that would go over well with the rest of the players, so wouldn't exactly be a good start to Ange's tenure.

He's got a year left on his contract, right? No Europe, so fewer games. Use him as a bench option/emergency depth.
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No, release him and promote or buy an u18
 
Thin Lilywhite Duke said:
Quite. Taken to its logical conclusion, if Dier just dug his heels in 100% then you'd be left using tactics like freezing him out of the squad and making him train with the youth squad. I can't imagine that would go over well with the rest of the players, so wouldn't exactly be a good start to Ange's tenure.

He's got a year left on his contract, right? No Europe, so fewer games. Use him as a bench option/emergency depth.
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This makes way too much sense.
Expect kisses from the usual suspects.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Twitter is the news feed of the world. Like it or not.
People say mean things but if you can get past that, there’s good info on the platform
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Aha ok I see, thanks. Call me old-fashioned, but I think I'll stick to the 'old school' news platforms (or 'media media' if you'll indulge me :) ). Still full of complete cunts obviously, but perhaps marginally less so than Twitter it seems. :)
 
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CarrieFi said:
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That Vicario transfer has worked out quite nicely for us. He was going to be Inter's Onana replacement but instead they've been forced to turn to Lloris instead.

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Zomb said:
No, release him and promote or buy an u18
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So pay him the wages he'd earn for the 2023/24 season anyway and spend more money on a backup that likely won't get used given our lighter fixture schedule?

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I'm not a fan of Dier playing a single more minute for us, but as long as him sticking around doesn't stop the acquisition of two more CBs this summer (which I don't think it will), it's a problem that will take care of itself in a year.
 
Zomb said:
Agree with a lot of that. I expect more output and focus from him but I read a bit how all Liverpool staff are all invested in the first team results amd pull in the same direction. Football staff aside, I just don’t him inspiring that same level of dedication from the bsckroom staff. Poch covered some cracks and Ange will too but I’ve worked under a stellar CEO and they really do inspire everyone.
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Yeah, I have too, though it was an owner rather than the CEO.

But I've also worked for directors and Area managers that did the same. It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be the CEO that inspires, he just has to create the structure that includes inspiring people.

I know nothing of Munn really, but he might have that in him? We definitely have it in our manager. Maybe that's enough? Did Man Utd have an inspiring CEO when Ferguson was there? Maybe, but they certainly didn't when the Glazer's took over. The manager was the inspiration there, as was Wenger when he arrived. HE changed the culture at the filth, not their CEO. The CEO just gave him the platform.

Whilst it would be nice to have an inspirational CEO, it's not a must.
 
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