Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)

[Supayid]

If you offer me 4.5 million for my house, I will sell it to you but sane people don’t offer 100% above value. Same with Sheikh Mansour.

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I said every player has a price. A well worn adage to quote another poster but one I believe to be true.
A buying club will assign a price on a player they hope to buy obviously. That price is usually based on the degree of need or importance of improving their team.
Man city had a figure that wasn't enough for levy.
They moved on with haaland.
Honest question.
Do you think Declan Rice is worth £105 million?
And if not, why did Woolwich pay it?

 

[Modder1440]

Looks to have pace, a good passer of the ball, fairly powerful build, his height means he will win a good proportion of balls in the air and seems to anticipate well and intercept ball.

A lot of good attributes for a CB.

Still just aged 18 so a couple of years to go but looks a top prospect

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Throw him straight into our starting lineup. If he holds water, he will be the most expensive defender in the world in 12 months time

 

[Bill-bao Bob]

Possibility of a signing announced tomorrow then? How exciting!

 

[Supayid]

Another well worn, but only works as a hypothetical adage that sits right alongside; "Pay enough and they will come"


Well Airfixx, Ravanelli and juninho must have always dreamed of kicking a ball and living in smoggy middlesbrough from a young age I guess back in the nineties.

 

[JDK]

After watching today, I don’t understand how our transfer strategy is anything other than just buy Tapsoba and VDV and sell excess players.

We’re pretty well stocked up front and in the midfield. Udogie looks ready to play immediately. Why not just dedicate all our financial resources to getting two CBs? Doesn’t seem like it’s asking too much to dole out 70-80m there considering we‘ll have probably 7-8 outgoings.

 

[Airfixx]

Well Airfixx, Ravanelli and juninho must have always dreamed of kicking a ball and living in smoggy middlesbrough from a young age I guess back in the nineties.

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25-30 year old exceptions don't prove the rule, fella.

You honestly think the only thing keeping Mbappe from Spurs this trf window is an un-willingness to trump his wages?

......No.

........And you could make a list as long as your arm that this also currently applies to.

You think Saudi-Whodafuck FC(s) wouldn't prefer Mbappe & Haaland to sign for them as opposed to all the semi-retired name-value signings they've scooped up this summer?

...You bet your ass they would; so why haven't they even though money is seemingly no object?

 

[NotThatTedHughes]

I said every player has a price. A well worn adage to quote another poster but one I believe to be true.
A buying club will assign a price on a player they hope to buy obviously. That price is usually based on the degree of need or importance of improving their team.
Man city had a figure that wasn't enough for levy.
They moved on with haaland.
Honest question.
Do you think Declan Rice is worth £105 million?
And if not, why did Woolwich pay it?

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The inflationary bar does move from time to time.
West Ham sold this year because Rice has 1 + 1 on his contract. They simply wouldn’t have sold last year at any price. Length remaining on a contract has a bearing on availability.

In truth, it was the ridiculous Enzo Fernandez fee that really moved the bar on inflation and that’s because Todd Boehly and his team are rank fucking amateurs when it comes to football. I’m sure they pissed off more than a few chairmen with that move.
In comparison to Fernandez and with Brighton asking 100m for Calceido, I think Woolwich overpaid but got a decent deal.

 

[White Hart]

Word on the street is that Levy flew home just to conclude the deal because he wasn't able to use the phone or the internet in Australia.

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What about the Bush Telegraph?

 

[Supayid]

25-30 year old exceptions don't prove the rule, fella.

You honestly think the only thing keeping Mbappe from Spurs this trf window is an un-willingness to trump his wages?

......No.

........And you could make a list as long as your arm that this also currently applies to.

You think Saudi-Whodafuck FC(s) wouldn't prefer Mbappe & Haaland to sign for them as opposed to all the semi-retired name-value signings they've scooped up this summer?

...You bet your ass they would; so why haven't they even though money is seemingly no object?

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A lot to unpick here.
Football has moved on from that example I've given but I think i'm right saying that the best players in the world are also the most highly paid.
Using Spurs as your analogy is disingenuous as we are not an attractive club for any ambitious player not solely motivated by money.
champions league football is a massive pull but clubs of equal standing usually get the player by throwing money at them
The Saudi league is not attractive to most young quality players but there have been a couple of surprises. Neves comes to mind.
Give it time though. If the super league happens, which I sadly think is inevitable I can see a couple of their clubs invited, and then more and more high profile. players will go there.
Even with ffp football is in serious trouble with the amount of money coming into it from the middle east.
We used to laugh at Scotland for how uncompetitive it's league was.
Man city have won 5 of the last 6 down here.
Sad times.

 

[Airfixx]

A lot to unpick here.
Football has moved on from that example I've given but I think i'm right saying that the best players in the world are also the most highly paid.

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Of course; but that's not remotely what's been argued.

Using Spurs as your analogy is disingenuous as we are not an attractive club for any ambitious player not solely motivated by money.

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Its not disingenuous at all(*)... It's the whole damn point! The very best players; they generally go where they think they can be most successful and/or get the most prestige and the money end takes care of itself.

Every once in a while we see low-ambition mercenaries buck that trend, but as already said; the exception doesn't prove the rule.

(*What's "disingenuous" is when people pretend the only possible reason that X or Y player doesn't end up here is because we, financially, didn't force the issue enough. We hear that crap over and over again.)

champions league football is a massive pull but clubs of equal standing usually get the player by throwing money at them
The Saudi league is not attractive to most young quality players but there have been a couple of surprises. Neves comes to mind.

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Yes; and the reason why absolutely furthers the point at hand here...... Again; if it's exclusively about money then why are players like Sonny, Lukaku etc. turning them down?

We both know the answer.

 

[LeParisien]

Of course; but that's not remotely what's been argued.



Its not disingenuous at all(*)... It's the whole damn point! The very best players; they generally go where they think they can be most successful and/or get the most prestige and the money end takes care of itself.

Every once in a while we see a low-ambition mercenaries buck that trend, but as just said; the expeption doesn't prove the rule.

(*What's "disingenuous" is when people pretend the only possible reason that X or Y player doesn't end up here is because we, financially, didn't force the issue enough. We hear that crap over and over again.)



Yes; and the reason why absolutely furthers the point at hand here...... Again; if it's exclusively about money then why are players like Sonny, Lukaku etc. turning them down?

We both know the answer.

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Completely right.

This guy came in claiming all sorts of things but his hottest argument seems to be that if we don’t sign a player it’s because we didn’t pay enough. And that should include way over market value.

Thanks for your insight. Bye.

 

[earthandgreen]

Really? Watching that game makes it even clearer to me that we are absolutely desperate for some attacking/creative/productive quality.

If we’re going to dominate games like this, the bunch we have - Kulusevski, Son, Richarlison are really not good in compressed spaces, Solomon’s ok at dribbling but lacks vision, he just seems to want to shift and shoot.

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I thought Solomon played quite a few nice passes in and around the box under pressure. That was something I was pleasantly surprised about with him.

 

[Supayid]

Completely right.

This guy came in claiming all sorts of things but his hottest argument seems to be that if we don’t sign a player it’s because we didn’t pay enough. And that should include way over market value.

Thanks for your insight. Bye.

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Lies. I called you out for what you are. You called most fans on this forum entitled cunts no less for showing frustration at the club not addressing glaring deficiencies in the defence 3 weeks before the season starts.
I then basically said imo levy is trying to lowball the clubs as he has done many times in the past.
Posters then came to defend you.
I rarely post on here but I addressed you in the past and I'll state it again.
You are a troll from another club or in the employ of the ownership of the club defending it on social media.
What you're not is a spurs fan.
I've never put anyone on ignore but I think it's time I started with you and your multis.
Goodnight.

 

[earthandgreen]

Some positive words about a 16 y.o. Ash Phillips from Tony Mowbray in late 2021 when he was Blackburn manager. Long way to go but sounds promising.

"Asked what excites him about Phillips' prospects, Mowbray told Lancs Live. "He's 6ft 4', he's fast, mobile and can pass it really well. He can use both feet, he's composed. Ash is just a phenomenal young boy; if you were to create a defender in the mould of how you would want one, this kid has got every attribute."

 

[Supayid]

Of course; but that's not remotely what's been argued.



Its not disingenuous at all(*)... It's the whole damn point! The very best players; they generally go where they think they can be most successful and/or get the most prestige and the money end takes care of itself.

Every once in a while we see low-ambition mercenaries buck that trend, but as already said; the exception doesn't prove the rule.

(*What's "disingenuous" is when people pretend the only possible reason that X or Y player doesn't end up here is because we, financially, didn't force the issue enough. We hear that crap over and over again.)



Yes; and the reason why absolutely furthers the point at hand here...... Again; if it's exclusively about money then why are players like Sonny, Lukaku etc. turning them down?

We both know the answer.

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As I stated in Saudi Arabias case they will become more attractive over time especially as they will be involved in the coming super league further down the line.
What my argument boils down to is this.
Its money coupled with ambition in the modern era.
The best Players go where they can win the highest prizes and earn the highest wages. We agree
At spurs under this ownership we offer neither.
The harsh reality is that enic will never show the ambition that Woolwich just have.
As a spurs fan that should sicken you.
I know it does me.

 

[bus-conductor]

I thought Solomon played quite a few nice passes in and around the box under pressure. That was something I was pleasantly surprised about with him.

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I thought he missed the opportunity to play the overlap player in behind a couple of times because he seemed hell bent on trying to cunt in and get a shot off and instead just ran into traffic.

My first proper look at him so early days I guess.

 

[earthandgreen]

I thought he missed the opportunity to play the overlap player in behind a couple of times because he seemed hell bent on trying to cunt in and get a shot off and instead just ran into traffic.

My first proper look at him so early days I guess.

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Yep, I agree he dd that too, but there were several occasions where I assumed based on the little I knew of him that he would cut in and shoot but instead he played a delicate pass.

As you say, early days, but overall I was more impressed with him than I'd expected to be, largely because he did things other than just dribble and shoot.

 

[NotThatTedHughes]

I rarely post on here but I addressed you in the past and I'll state it again.
You are a troll from another club or in the employ of the ownership of the club defending it on social media.

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Yes, I’m sure that Joe Lewis pays people to post on TFC because a cabal of half a dozen posters have put ownership on ‘super secret probation’ in the ‘last, last chance saloon’ to get a window right.
Or there’s a Man United fan so obsessed with Tottenham that he posts multiples times daily on their fan boards without once talking up the team he actually supports.
You have chosen to mostly remain silent and as a wise man once said: Better to remain silent…..

 

[Archie]

What about the Bush Telegraph?

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Oooeeerrrr Mrs!!

 

[CerealMaterial]

I thought he missed the opportunity to play the overlap player in behind a couple of times because he seemed hell bent on trying to cunt in and get a shot off and instead just ran into traffic.

My first proper look at him so early days I guess.

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The bolded makes me think he'd fit right in here