Steve Perryman was a great captain but had much better players in that side, notably Hoddle, Ardiles, Archibald and probably a couple of others. Steve Bruce in the early to mid 90s Utd team? Tony Adams in that early Wenger Woolwich team?
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I don't know how you actually quantify 'better'?
You get different captains, Henderson is a talker but Kane leads by example, for example...
Out of interest where did you play pro sports?
Yeah poss/prob. I’m talking a five year decline from CL so top 6 doesn’t revise that decline
Douglas Luiz would be a really good signing, but absolutely zero chance we’d pay what Villa would want for him.
So you believe Henderson has been the best player at Liverpool in recent years?
Yeah only signed a new contract a year ago so would cost a fortune. Only possibilty is a Lo Celso part exchange if they're still interested.
Yes they do. Absolute rubbish. But Cantona wasn’t lying that deschamps was to give him the ball but deschamps was a leader. So Steve Bruce was better than Cantona? Was Puyol better than Messi? Was perryman better than hoddle? I could go on all day but players that are captains don’t need to be the best. They need to lead,manage the dressing room and be someone to look up to(especially young players) and lead by example.
Cantona was an arrogant genius but a guy who wasn’t a captain.
Kane isn’t your vocal captain but does all those things I’ve mentioned.
Stop making shit up because it makes you sound like a bitter clueless idiot which I’m sure you’re not.
Yeah I like Luiz not sure if he's available
Yeah nice player.
Zidane, Desaily, Thuram and Henry, won France WC and EC. That was their golden generation. They would still win the WC even if that donkey Guivarch was wearing the armband.
Captains who are not among the best players in the team are only tolerated in periods of success, it gets ugly as soon as things go south
Mokbel is full of shit. I wouldn’t believe a word of it.
We are pretty chummy with Athletico. I’m sure if we wanted to do a deal it wouldn’t be too hard.
It's astonishing how many people are living in the past with regard to captains, harking back to the days of Bryan Robson, John Terry and the like.
It hasn't been like that for years now, the captain is in many ways a symbolic role, with the focus much more off the field and the respect they have of their team-mates and how they liaise with the manager and even the chairman.
I've lost count of the number of times I've cited an interview with Xavi ten or more years ago, where he explained that the traditional captain's role on the pitch was very much a movable feast, anyone who felt the spirit move them could assume the role, one person might be more vocal with attackers, another with defenders, one earlier in the game, one later, but it would almost always move through the team depending on the moment.
So he might wear the armband but there were times where he was focusing more on his own game, maybe after making a mistake, and Pujol or Piqué would take up the mantle.
And so on and so on. He was adamant that the armband didn't make the slightest difference.
It hasn't been like that for years now, the captain is in many ways a symbolic role, with the focus much more off the field and the respect they have of their team-mates and how they liaise with the manager and even the chairman.
I've lost count of the number of times I've cited an interview with Xavi ten or more years ago, where he explained that the traditional captain's role on the pitch was very much a movable feast, anyone who felt the spirit move them could assume the role, one person might be more vocal with attackers, another with defenders, one earlier in the game, one later, but it would almost always move through the team depending on the moment.
So he might wear the armband but there were times where he was focusing more on his own game, maybe after making a mistake, and Pujol or Piqué would take up the mantle.
And so on and so on. He was adamant that the armband didn't make the slightest difference.
Would you rate Gundogan as Man City's best player? He wasn't even their best CM yet the players voted him as captain and I can guarantee you that it had nothing to do with whether they thought he was their best player.
That's all well and good but Hojbjerg is probably our best back up to Bissouma for the 6 in this system so we'd be weakening ourselves considerably having Skipp as the depth.
'Water carriers' are never inferior, they are crucial to a team's success and the best players know that.
If we're using the money to get Veiga we're not necessarily weakening ourselves.
I hate PEH as a #6 (he's shit at it).... Would much rather play Skipp there.