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Does anyone think maguire has been treated badly by ten hag and might have a point to prove at his new club?
Maguire may look like a dope and have a clanger a game in him , but to see a dickhead like Fernandez becoming captain is a kick in the hole. I don’t recall maguire ever asking to be subbed off because he couldn’t handle feta beating.

Well he's been poor for them and they have been ruthless which is fair but I've always said that he's not as bad as people make out and will most probably have a point to prove at his next club.
 
Good read.

Hope he backs up his words with performances this year.

Go on lad
Whilst Conte was undoubtedly a difficult man, this does have the strong whiff of player power winning every time. Don’t like the manager? Let’s conspire to fuck his chances of succeeding .
I’m 100% glad he’s gone in favour of some bright, attacking football, but it’s a concern that player cabals can down tools and fuck up the whole season for us fans- just to get the boss out of the door.
The good thing about Ange from what I’ve seen so far is that he doesn’t talk in riddles, has a set idea about how he wants his team to commit and play to his style, & frankly “fuck off” if you aren’t on board.
It reminds me of the toxic atmosphere Poch had to wade through in his early days.
I pray that the trigger happy bald dwarf doesn’t still have the ear of the players.
“I’m going to speak to Daniel” springs to mind from that abomination of a documentary on Amazon.
 
we have Sarr already. He is just as atheistic
max von sydow priest GIF
 
At the WC break, we were sat in 5th having just conceded 11 from 5 games including 3 to Leeds and 2 to Bournemouth.

After the WC break, we conceded 10 from the next 5.
I said international break, not world cup break. ie after the Southampton game where there was 2 or 3 weeks off.

We got far worse after Conte left. That's the crux
 
Gabri Veiga has a release clause of about 40m of euros...

Serious serious talent. much higher ceiling than Gallagher and great for a pressing team.

Still want to see Sarr given a chance tho.
Here’s my only thing on Veiga. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a talent. Physically gifted, has an innate sense to arrive on crosses, tidy finisher, quick feet, energetic, all-around.

However - he doesn’t do any work in the first phase of buildup and is not a deep midfielder whatsoever, an 8 who needs to be advanced and not particularly gifted with passing or vision. Yeah, that can still be a great profile, but something about him screams to me the same uneasy feeling I had about Jenas, Paulinho, Dele, more recently Matheus Nunes, where they have these gaudy G/A totals but don’t really impact games as much as you’d think.

My issue is what does he excel at? Our best midfielders have always been specialists. Eriksen, Dembele, Luka, Carrick, Ginola, VDV, Gazza, Hoddle, Mackey etc. you can point to all of them and say, he was very close to the best in the world at this specific part of the game, be it dribbling, close control, stamina, long range shots, vision, tackling, crossing, free kicks, etc. Each one of them had something truly special in them, they were all well-rounded too, but each of them had that piece of true clsss in their locker that made them unique to any other midfielder in the world.

Veiga I don’t think has that, or at least, I question what his stand-out skill is.

And here’s why I’m cautious. Hasn’t he been linked with all the top clubs? All of them? City, the Spanish giants, Woolwich, Bayern I believe, Liverpool, the hits keep on coming. Why hasn’t anyone pulled the trigger on him, the summer where he was supposedly the darling of half of Europe? That concerns me.

He’s probably better than Gallagher tbf. But I don’t feel he’s a star. Look below, those are shocking passing statistics!

 
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Here’s my only thing on Veiga. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a talent. Physically gifted, has an innate sense to arrive on crosses, tidy finisher, quick feet, energetic, all-around.

However - he doesn’t do any work in the first phase of buildup and is not a deep midfielder whatsoever, an 8 who needs to be advanced and not particularly gifted with passing or vision. Yeah, that can still be a great profile, but something about him screams to me the same uneasy feeling I had about Jenas, Paulinho, Dele, more recently Matheus Nunes, where they have these gaudy G/A totals but don’t really impact games as much as you’d think.

My issue is what does he excel at? Our best midfielders have always been specialists. Eriksen, Dembele, Luka, Carrick, Ginola, VDV, Gazza, Hoddle, Mackey etc. you can point to all of them and say, he was very close to the best in the world at this specific part of the game, be it dribbling, close control, stamina, long range shots, vision, tackling, crossing, free kicks, etc. Each one of them had something truly special in them, they were all well-rounded too, but each of them had that piece of true clsss in their locker that made them unique to any other midfielder in the world.

Veiga I don’t think has that, or at least, I question what his stand-out skill is.

And here’s why I’m cautious. Hasn’t he been linked with all the top clubs? All of them? City, the Spanish giants, Woolwich, Bayern I believe, Liverpool, the hits keep on coming. Why hasn’t anyone pulled the trigger on him, the summer where he was supposedly the darling of half of Europe? That concerns me.

He’s probably better than Gallagher tbf. But I don’t feel he’s a star. Look below, those are shocking passing statistics!



Looks like he's in the Jacob Ramsey realm of never passing.
 
Side note: Zaha went to Turkey for £3m sign-on and £80k a week (approx. £125k a week). Apparently despite being offered £200k a week by Palace. I don't know what's going on in that lads head, but I suspect 'fuck all'.

Who knows, but he was “reportedly” offered $200k According to th article. We don’t know what he was offered. But $200k/1 yr (article doesn’t mention the length of the contract offered) is £10.4m.


The contract he accepted has a £2m bonus, and is 3 years at £3.75. That’s £13.25m.

It’s probably that simple. He was likely offered more money and a longer contract.
 
So it looks like both VDV and Tapsoba are out of our price range. Who do people think we should sign at CB then who is affordable because it looks like as a club we are broke.
So it’s taken over a month to conclude they are out of our price range. Think that is bs. Vdv would not cost much prbly £30M. We are interested in Gallagher and he would be upwards of £40M so we can afford the CBs.
 
Who knows, but he was “reportedly” offered $200k According to th article. We don’t know what he was offered. But $200k/1 yr (article doesn’t mention the length of the contract offered) is £10.4m.


The contract he accepted has a £2m bonus, and is 3 years at £3.75. That’s £13.25m.

It’s probably that simple. He was likely offered more money and a longer contract.
Can win the title and play in Europe with Gala. Intense atmosphere and, if he's decent, will be hero worshiped.
Or stay at palace and get a pat on the back for finishing 10th
 
Looks like he's in the Jacob Ramsey realm of never passing.
And look, that’s not a death sentence. Dele recently had one of the most productive runs in our club’s entire history as a similar profile, an advanced midfielder who is all action and isn’t much of a passer. But you have a much, much lower margin for success that way. You’d better have outlier physical ability or some sort of elite dribbling/goal-scoring threat. Once Dele’s pace and ability to be everywhere went, soon did his finishing and G/A totals, soon did his overall threat as a player and general value proposition to a top side, and sadly soon did his career.

You need auxiliary game-controlling skills to fall back on, and those are exactly why Bentancur has become our best midfielder.

And look I don’t watch Celta week in week out.

But I do know trends. And one trend is that when a player is touted to all the top clubs and very well known in transfer rumor circles, but doesn’t have any concrete offers, that’s a red flag. Teams have done their due diligence, there wouldn’t be so many links if they hadn’t. And they all decided to shop elsewhere. That says something. No one has actually made a real offer to Celta yet.
 
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