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🚨Director of Sport at Bayer Leverkusen, Simon Rolfes has rejected the potential sale of Tottenham Hotspur transfer target Edmond Tapsoba:

🗣️"No, not under normal circumstances! It is clear that at some point there are always limits. But Edmond is a very important player."

🗣️"He is one of the top players of our team, without question. He still has a long contract. Therefore, there is no reason for us to think about handing him over.”
 
I think maybe they get a young kid in like VDV or a cheaper option like Tosin.

I think most of rate Tosin as a depth choice.
Likewise most rate VDV as a project.

Neither of them are top CB targets. Tapsoba at 24 is closer to fitting that bill but Base wanted Levy to drop the budget on Maddison, so he did.

How much do you think Leverkusen value their top centre back, with 3 years left on his deal, at?

I think if they wanted 50m. Then we'd get it done.
 
I do like that Levy hasn’t even attempted to hide his true colors from Ange this summer and has already put him thru the ringer of Spurs manager pains immediately.

Since the Maddison feel-good signing Levy has

-shifted exactly one piece of deadwood
-haggled needlessly and fruitlessly scuppering two potential outs
-signed Solomon for “free” that required a last minute friendly to pull off is still unresolved with a possible tribunal or court case over a fee
-has made zero announcement or clarification on who is selecting transfer targets, with no new DOF (is Paratici involved, is he not, how involved can he be, and if he is. why the fuck is a man literally banned from the sport advising us, etc)
-has directly ignored Ange’s request of a CB before the preseason Tour, again dilly-dallying on VdV/Tapsoba/Tosin and looking a jumbled mess in terms of prioritizing targets
-and then finally the Kane thing. Which tbf isn’t all on Levy, but is a massive distraction and show-stopping domino in the first summer.

Levy has shown the worst of his management this summer and has basically ruined any good faith hope Ange may have had in him already.

While it’s pathetic behavior as usual from him, it’s oddly respectable - like pulling your cock out on the first date - as if to say, there’s no sleight of hand or hiding true colors here, I won’t put up any pretenses, here I am in all of my disgusting glory.
 
How much do you think Leverkusen value their top centre back, with 3 years left on his deal, at?

I think if they wanted 50m. Then we'd get it done.
Maybe 50-60m

Anything up to 70m is very normal for top CB targets.

Clubs were paying that before we had the highest rise in inflation in our lifetimes.

If we are saying transfer fee increases are loosely correlated with increased in broadcast rights and ticket prices, 60-70m is absolutely going rate for a top CB target.
 
I do like that Levy hasn’t even attempted to hide his true colors from Ange this summer and has already put him thru the ringer of Spurs manager pains immediately.

Since the Maddison feel-good signing Levy has

-shifted exactly one piece of deadwood
-haggled needlessly and fruitlessly scuppering two potential outs
-signed Solomon for “free” that required a last minute friendly to pull off is still unresolved with a possible tribunal or court case over a fee
-has made zero announcement or clarification on who is selecting transfer targets, with no new DOF (is Paratici involved, is he not, how involved can he be, and if he is. why the fuck is a man literally banned from the sport advising us, etc)
-has directly ignored Ange’s request of a CB before the preseason Tour, again dilly-dallying on VdV/Tapsoba/Tosin and looking a jumbled mess in terms of prioritizing targets
-and then finally the Kane thing. Which tbf isn’t all on Levy, but is a massive distraction and show-stopping domino in the first summer.

Levy has shown the worst of his management this summer and has basically ruined any good faith hope Ange may have had in him already.

While it’s pathetic behavior as usual from him, it’s oddly respectable - like pulling your cock out on the first date - as if to say, there’s no sleight of hand or hiding true colors here, I won’t put up any pretenses, here I am in all of my disgusting glory.
Agree.

No point pretending or giving false expectations
 
Maybe 50-60m

Anything up to 70m is very normal for top CB targets.

Clubs were paying that before we had the highest rise in inflation in our lifetimes.

If we are saying transfer fee increases are loosely correlated with increased in broadcast rights and ticket prices, 60-70m is absolutely going rate for a top CB target.

I think that's alot of money for Tapsoba, who's no where near being elite right now.

55m would probably be the max I'd be offering. With a load of add ons dependent on European football, Champions League qualifications etc.

I would still personally be happy with Tosin and Van de Ven. But I do also believe that Tapsoba is further along in his development than VDV is.

Then again, I think the Bayer director is saying what a director would. If we offered the 55m, they'd accept it. We know they would.
 
Since the Maddison feel-good signing Levy has

-shifted exactly one piece of deadwood
-haggled needlessly and fruitlessly scuppering two potential outs

Who?

-signed Solomon for “free” that required a last minute friendly to pull off is still unresolved with a possible tribunal or court case over a fee

This is bollocks,.

Ange was a fan even before Spurs btw.

Getting a good player for free isn't a bad thing either; so why cast it as a negative?

-and then finally the Kane thing. Which tbf isn’t all on Levy, but is a massive distraction and show-stopping domino in the first summer.

It's not "On levy" at all..... If BM won't make a serious offer; he stays. Simple.

Levy has shown the worst of his management this summer and has basically ruined any good faith hope Ange may have had in him already.

You should let Ange decide that.... Right now he's making very different noises to those which you are making.

I knew these things feel far more profound when you make a big list; but a credible list is essential to it being taken seriously.
 
I think maybe they get a young kid in like VDV or a cheaper option like Tosin.

I think most of rate Tosin as a depth choice.
Likewise most rate VDV as a project.

Neither of them are top CB targets. Tapsoba at 24 is closer to fitting that bill

I don't disagree with how you break those 3 down; but who are your 2 "top" CB targets then?
 
I think that's alot of money for Tapsoba, who's no where near being elite right now.

55m would probably be the max I'd be offering. With a load of add ons dependent on European football, Champions League qualifications etc.

I would still personally be happy with Tosin and Van de Ven. But I do also believe that Tapsoba is further along in his development than VDV is.

Then again, I think the Bayer director is saying what a director would. If we offered the 55m, they'd accept it. We know they would.
It’s not about what you and I think.

If a prem club that wants elite talent IDs a player as elite talent then they can expect to pay elite prices.

Was the same thing that made Levy piss his pants on Bastoni and Skriniar. If you need an elite CB, identify one and go get them.
 
PEH, for one. Davinson (although there may be movement on that now). Perisic. Reguilon. Ndombele. I don’t know if you actually follow the club but we have the most bloated fucking squad in club history it’s absolutely ridiculous.
This is bollocks,.

Ange was a fan even before Spurs btw.

Getting a good player for free isn't a bad thing either; so why cast it as a negative?
It’s not bollocks, see:
And it isn’t a negative, it’s a good signing, but my point is that even a success like this still feels quite dodgy and is still tinged in uncertainty and questioning in true Levy fashion.
It's not "On levy" at all..... If BM won't make a serious offer; he stays. Simple.
It is on Levy that he wants to leave though, the situation with Kane is fractured going back to 2021 because of DL’s incompetence. And as we all know it’s going to drag on and on.
You should let Ange decide that.... Right now he's making very different noises to those which you are making.

I knew these things feel far more profound when you make a big list; but a credible list is essential to it being taken seriously.
Has Levy paid you to gargle his balls on the internet or are you hoping that the pro bono practice will prepare you for doing the job?
 
I do like that Levy hasn’t even attempted to hide his true colors from Ange this summer and has already put him thru the ringer of Spurs manager pains immediately.

Since the Maddison feel-good signing Levy has

-shifted exactly one piece of deadwood
-haggled needlessly and fruitlessly scuppering two potential outs
-signed Solomon for “free” that required a last minute friendly to pull off is still unresolved with a possible tribunal or court case over a fee
-has made zero announcement or clarification on who is selecting transfer targets, with no new DOF (is Paratici involved, is he not, how involved can he be, and if he is. why the fuck is a man literally banned from the sport advising us, etc)
-has directly ignored Ange’s request of a CB before the preseason Tour, again dilly-dallying on VdV/Tapsoba/Tosin and looking a jumbled mess in terms of prioritizing targets
-and then finally the Kane thing. Which tbf isn’t all on Levy, but is a massive distraction and show-stopping domino in the first summer.

Levy has shown the worst of his management this summer and has basically ruined any good faith hope Ange may have had in him already.

While it’s pathetic behavior as usual from him, it’s oddly respectable - like pulling your cock out on the first date - as if to say, there’s no sleight of hand or hiding true colors here, I won’t put up any pretenses, here I am in all of my disgusting glory.

Absolute shambles of a post.
 
Tapsoba isn’t happening.

Was never going to happen. Was always one where the fans were getting strung along.

This is the difference between our small time owners and genuinely ambitious clubs,

I don’t enjoy saying it and I get why fans like yourself would want to rail against it. I’d almost prefer to believe in these things myself .

Have we done two big deals in a summer before?
 
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