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Without it, you’re just kicking the can down the road and probably subsidizing wages too. This is a deal you do on deadline day if you’re desperate. I’d rather sell or loan him to Luton or a championship side if we can in the meantime — otherwise, he’ll be back like a bad penny in a year like GLC and N’Dombele.

Missed my point, fella.... Look at the phrasing:

"Mandatory buy option"
 
Uhhhh in the seasons they both left respectively we most definitely didn't. Which is what matters, and why people are more concerned now than then .. we were 8th WITH Kane and his THIRTY league goals

"Uhhhhh" you asked a straight question; you got a straight answer.....

08/09 (The season after we last won the LC) we had both Bale & Modric and we finished 8th.

The year before, we also finished 11th WITH Berbatov.
 
Whilst the rhetoric is juvenile and moronic, there are a number of reasons fans have to be unhappy right now:-

- We just finished 8th and missed out on Europe. This is well below our stature and financial status as a club and I think we all agree is unacceptable for us.

- After a really fruitful period, we’ve only attained top 4 once in the last 4 years and have finished out of the top 6 twice

- We haven’t had a manager for a full season since 18/19, a sign of the successive poor managerial choices we’ve made since Poch left.

- Our recent recruitment record has been awful

- We’ve won 1 trophy this century. I appreciate it’s gotten harder with the influx of foreign money, but that’s not good enough for Tottenham

- Ticket prices for fans are extortionate and I read the highest in the country. That doesn’t reflect what we see on the pitch

- After such a disappointing season last year, our transfer activity (in and out) has been pretty uninspiring thus far (I appreciate there are many weeks left in the window).

- One of our greatest ever players wants to leave because the club hasn’t been able to fulfil his ambition.

- Our club has appeared to lack any real strategy for success since Poch left.

Most of the failures noted sit under the remit of Levy, and whilst some of the comments made about him are utterly cringey, so is the way you, Airfixx Airfixx and Get in! Get in! seek to dismiss every single negative, or critique to a minute level to undermine them at least.

I’ve never previously been ENIC or Levy out, and I'm still broadly comfortable with the way we run our club financially.

But surely we can all agree that Levy needs to be completely removed from all football-related decision making now? I know the new structure promotes this, but the fact everyone on the footballing side still reports to him is a concern for me.

I no longer have faith in him to make the footballing decisions needed to push our club in the right direction.
Unfortunately, whilst I do appreciate all of the good he's done, when it comes to key, crunch, crucial football moments the bloke leaves the table and shits the bed.

He doesn't dare and he most certainly doesn't do.

He's a pragmatic, smart, vital component of the business side but what's been lost on him is that football simply isn't a business. You need to be in it for the glory and that involves making maverick moves of pure bravery. He's penny pinched once too often for me, and as one of his backers for all the good he has done, its time he ships out and leaves the rest of the job to someone that has the nuts to see it through
 
FWIW:

They did €50m-odd net last season.

€60m-odd net the season before that.
€65m-odd net the season before that.
€38m net PROFIT the season before that.
€140m-odd net the season before that.
€10m net PROFIT the season before that.
€5m net PROFIT the season before that.
€35m-odd net the season before that.

Could go on, but the truth is that they have spent very little..... For the most part they simply spent well.

Agree but somehow spent more on better players.

The lower net is due to sales.

They have bought better and been more committed to getting better players in.

As a result they have been able to sell players for a higher fee
 
To add... how he hasn't got a CB in after 63 goals conceded, during a window where he simply must show Harry real ambition is a calamity.

I'm Spurs through and through but I'd seriously question Kanes desire to be the player we all know he is and can be if he were to sign when the club are fucking around with everything other than the football side of things.

I lost my Levy respect when he took his eye off the ball big time when our most tweeted about subject of the year was a fucking Beyonce concert.

It's a football club. Treat it as such or be on your way
 
To add... how he hasn't got a CB in after 63 goals conceded, during a window where he simply must show Harry real ambition is a calamity.

I'm Spurs through and through but I'd seriously question Kanes desire to be the player we all know he is and can be if he were to sign when the club are fucking around with everything other than the football side of things.

I lost my Levy respect when he took his eye off the ball big time when our most tweeted about subject of the year was a fucking Beyonce concert.

It's a football club. Treat it as such or be on your way

I lost my Levy respect when he failed to support Pochettino for two consecutive windows right at a time where we could and should have won a heap of trophies. All because of his vanity project.

That was long before he tried to sell us all out by being part of the breakaway super league consortium.

Yeah, he got Rafael van der Vaart on the cheap and built a nice stadium (even though I will always prefer the old Lane) but almost everything since has been a calamity. We've done reasonably well on the park at times in spite of Levy, not because of him.

And now he is absolutely botching the Kane situation and fucking over the new manager (head coach, whatever) in the process which should be a surprise to nobody.
 
Agree but somehow spent more on better players.

The lower net is due to sales.

Wasn't that the point the other bloke was putting to you? (I wasn't reading that intently)

If we'd found ourselves forced to sell 3 of our stars like they were with Sterling, Suarez & Coutinho we'd have probably spent more (gross) too......

They have bought better and been more committed to getting better players in.

As a result they have been able to sell players for a higher fee

I'm pretty sure that when we bought the numerous expensive duds we were committed to getting good players. It certainly wasn't Matt Doherty & Gedson Fernandes that hamstrung us.

On the flip Coutinho (their big payola ticket) was a punt on a player who'd already been discarded as dud by ACMilan.... It was a punt on a re-hab job..... Not some brassy big boy move.
 
Wasn't that the point the other bloke was putting to you? (I wasn't reading that intently)

If we'd found ourselves forced to sell 3 of our stars like they were with Sterling, Suarez & Coutinho we'd have probably spent more (gross) too......



I'm pretty sure that when we bought the numerous expensive duds we were committed to getting good players. It certainly wasn't Matt Doherty & Gedson Fernandes that hamstrung us.

On the flip Coutinho (their big payola ticket) was a punt on a player who'd already been discarded as dud by ACMilan.... It was a punt on a re-hab job..... Not some brassy big boy move.
I was talking about the difference between their commitment to signing Van Dijk when they needed a CB, in contrast to our commitment to getting a CB this summer.

When they are sure they have been willing to overpay to get the player they want.

€83m in 2018 for a CB from Southampton.

That’s way above any of of biggest signings.
 
I wasn’t following any of the Spurs boards when Modric and Bale left but did we get this level of ‘the sky is falling’ in 2012 and 2013?
Mate it was grim. Paint by numbers AVB football was actually even more turgid in ways than Conte and Mou. Plus Bale carried that 12-13 season in ways that I don’t think a winger has ever carried any football club… he was Herculean.

There was at least some hope in that we sold Elvis but bought the Beatles… it was a young squad with a lot of potential coming through… the League was a lot worse back then, there wasn’t as much money, wasn’t as much separation as well.

Now it feels like we’re going to be financially inferior and just totally dominated in the transfer market by 6-7 sides. That aspect wasn’t there as much.

but man, it was grim. It was very depressing before Poch got hired.
 
I was talking about the difference between their commitment to signing Van Dijk when they needed a CB, in contrast to our commitment to getting a CB this summer.

When they are sure they have been willing to overpay to get the player they want.

€83m in 2018 for a CB from Southampton.

That’s way above any of of biggest signings.

I see....

It's hard for me to judge when I don't know how much (eg) Tapsoba is being priced at..... I've no idea what that 'exceptional' pricetag is that the BL owner refereed to.... Or indeed how "sure" spurs are about Tap (nor how good I think he is).....


I'm still way more pre-occupied with why so many of our biggies proved to be duds than which club has the bigger record trf. Ndombele was def. us going all 'in' cos he was our guy... And we still fucked it.
 
Mate it was grim. Paint by numbers AVB football was actually even more turgid in ways than Conte and Mou. Plus Bale carried that 12-13 season in ways that I don’t think a winger has ever carried any football club… he was Herculean.

There was at least some hope in that we sold Elvis but bought the Beatles… it was a young squad with a lot of potential coming through… the League was a lot worse back then, there wasn’t as much money, wasn’t as much separation as well.

Now it feels like we’re going to be financially inferior and just totally dominated in the transfer market by 6-7 sides. That aspect wasn’t there as much.

but man, it was grim. It was very depressing before Poch got hired.

AVB season 2 was SO grim that even Sherwood seemed like fun for a while.

sherwood-adebayor-salute.jpg
 
Plus Bale carried that 12-13 season in ways that I don’t think a winger has ever carried any football club… he was Herculean.
Despite all Harry’s goals, I’ve never thought he’s been able to carry us the way that Bale did that year.
Harry’s a top class player.
Bale was a generational talent.
We survived losing him and we thrived. This is the first existential crisis for the Poch generation of supporters. They might need a little extra sympathy, diaper-changing and hand-holding.
 
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