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Transfers Summer Transfer Thread 2023! - Closed (Maybe)
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Don’t ignore the fact they’ve absolutely pulverised us in terms of youth infra too. That yields a steady return and the odd first teamer
You didn’t answer my question.
If the player is always approached first, do you think Tomali said ‘yes, I want to move’ and agreed personal terms?
I never said they did, that was someone else.
It's not a straw man finance lecture, I assure you.
It's a rebuttal as to why a specific statistic I have seen you use before is a flawed measure.
By the sounds of things our youth system has improved a lot last few seasons but we won’t see the benefit for several seasons. Some real talents like Dorrington and Mikey Moore coming up.
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Feel free to note this as rebuttal if it's argued that our net spend since 2019 is high.
An example of this is City actually. They spent so much money between 2010-2020, that they can maintain an extremely high value squad without high net spend in recent years.
They can just sell previously bought players and upgrade with moderate net spend. So if they argue their recent success isn't money related by pointing to 2021-2023 net spend... it's a bullshit argument in the same way our so called net spend compared to rivals since 2019 is.
No you're absolutely right. It's a common tactic to relentlessly hammer home our recent high net spend whilst ignoring context like our very low turnover to wage bill ratio and the fact we basically allowed the squad to rot away under Poch and thus absolutely had to spend recently so that we would have a team.
There's also more context to our high net spend like our incompetence when it comes to selling players & poor academy meaning we need to spend where other rivals don't - but that's all best left to ENIC thread.
To be fair, one of the reasons they are able to wax a fortune on individual players is because they've got their youth recruitment and coaching right. They've also taken punts that have worked out for them. Odegaard, Saliba and Martinelli immediately spring to mind there.
Our punts have been very poor in comparison, though Romero, Bentancur, Emerson and Kulusevki have gone some way to addressing that, with the hope that Udogie will add to the list.
It has taken them 4-5 years to do this though. Odegaard was sniggered at on here at first, Saliba was sent on loan, Martinelli in and out of the team etc.
There are comparisons that can be drawn between the two sides, with regard to the punts but, IMO, the biggest difference between the two clubs, apart from them being scum, is that they showed faith in their manager through all of the rough patches, and they had more than a few.
Then they backed him, and they're continuing to back him. Those that laughed at them for doing this are now those that are bewailing the fact.
I'd hoped we'd show at least 50% of that kind of commitment to AP, and actually thought that we were after the first 3 signings. I'm not thinking that now.
Different model or not, they've shown faith in their choices , backed them fully and acted decisively on every key buy they've made.
It's an unpalatable truth, but it's still the truth.
My sense of it is that they've done what I want Levy to do. It's apparent that he's reluctant to do this though, or he's at least put blockers in place that prevent this from happening.
Maybe he wants to see how these acquisitions develop, before committing the same sort of outlay we've seen wasted over the last 5 years. Maybe he wants to see if this data metric system actually works before fully committing to it. Maybe he actually IS a tight bastard. I don't know.
What we do know though, is that he's sanctioned a half Billion in nett spend over that time, most of which has been on mediocre to poor players, whether that be in relation to outright talent or attitude.
Yeah agree but City’s is ridiculous.
Good player. Terribly slow though.
Feel for Colwill a bit. He should be starting for them and I imagine he won't be.
Pepe the Flop at £72 million & tearing up Aubameyang's £350k per week contract only for him to rock up at Barca were even bigger clusterfucks than our signing of Ndombele & GLC for big fees & salary.
How do Woolwich do it?
Football finances & FFP are mysterious businesses.
There is that too.
Tonali very clearly didn't want to leave Milan but he was offered so much money by Newcastle that he agreed to it. If I was guessing, Milan maybe put some pressure on him too saying how much they wanted the money.
What's your point? Can you even remember your point?
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Have you watched him run 50yards???
No way is he a fast top speed runner, no way.
If he is, name one time he’s run clear, or ran away from 1 defender?
not just this summer.
what do you think of our transfer window so far?
Their avg. net spend over the last 3 years is 165m + they haven't even finished this window yet and haven't had the Jan window.
So yes, technically not true. But not terribly far off either.
Who would want any part of that carry on
10/10 window
Not easy to improve on Dier and Sanchez, established internationals
So why your OG tag?
2 prev. posts contradicted me over things I'd not said..... Call it something else then; but dunno what you want.
Then perhaps tag the actual post and allow me to answer for my OWN words.