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MemphisWill said:
I never said he was good.

Your opinion of him is a bit caricaturized. He's not nearly as bad as some make him out to be, but he's certainly not good enough to start for a team with CL aspirations. Covered this ground in length earlier in the summer.

I expect he'll be staying as a bench option, which is fine. So long as we aren't depending on him, I'd get money for Sanchez and possibly Tanganga while letting Dier run down his deal on the bench and benefit from his presence in the dressing room, rather than spunk £5M to pay him to play somewhere else and face the same lame duck season with Sanchez next year.

We signed Mickey, and hopefully we're still working to sign Tapsoba.
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It is. I don’t believe he’s actually worse than a stationary used toilet bowl.

My real frustration, is that every winning team, in just about every sport, is built on an excellent defence. It’s been apparent that Dier can’t do the job for what, 5 seasons now? Criminal that we haven’t fixed it.
 
MemphisWill said:
Now this I can go along with - but he was injured last season and everyone was shit. More than earned the benefit of the doubt to see what he's got this season.

But he probably doesn't have many seasons left anyway. If he shows some quality this season, then you could talk me into selling him. Thought, and stated, that both he and Kane should have been sold 2 years ago.
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I think Son still has enough credit in the bank and deserves the benefit of the doubt to at the very least, stay at Spurs and compete for his place.

What I don’t think his history at Spurs entitles him to is automatic starts.

I don’t think Ange is stupid though. If Perisic keeps performing and Son doesn’t, he will get dropped imo.
 
daveyboy88 said:
we could of got 80 plus a year ago.

that would of shrewd business from the club, it would of been berated by the fans but it would of been the correct thing to do. 80m that could of gone into rebuilding that tragic defence.

levy is probably stubborn to sell players now in the fear of being criticized as a selling club. liverpool smashed it with coutinho.
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Not just Levy, you can from this thread some of the fanbase are horrified at the thought. We will keep him until he’s worthless and a bigger hindrance than last season for marketing purposes. Only explanation of how he kept his place last season (Levy picked him)
 
Cranston said:
Well, we’ll soon see.

I have zero issue with Son starting the season. I do have an issue with him starting every game when he fails to do anything. A lot of that was likely down to Conte, who was clearly an utterly unimaginative hierarchical tool.

But Solomon has looked useful and certainly deserving of starts.

I don’t think Ange will tolerate passengers.
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On pre season alone Sonny should be behind Perisic and Solomon but he will start on Sunday
 
Hotspursinho said:
I think Son still has enough credit in the bank and deserves the benefit of the doubt to at the very least, stay at Spurs and compete for his place.

What I don’t think his history at Spurs entitles him to is automatic starts.

I don’t think Ange is stupid though. If Perisic keeps performing and Son doesn’t, he will get dropped imo.
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Some of you guys are getting way carried away with meaningless preseason friendlies.
 
JDefoe said:
That’s an interesting one especially if Hojbjerg goes but I don’t think he’s really suited to the 6 and I’m not sure how he takes time away from Maddison, Sarr, Lo Celso, Bissouma etc.

Losing PEH I fear we need a real tackling physical beast in the squad, someone who can cover CBs in transition and run down attacks tirelessly, Hatate is not that.

But he’s really good, when I was watching Celtic stuff to figure out what Ange was about he always stood out, kind of the way Luka would stand out watching us under ‘Arry. So if nothing else he’d be an example for other guys and help the Ange-ification of our midfield.
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I’ve seen him many many times and if we can get him then we should. Fit,aggressive,fast,great passer and scores goals. His ability to score from outside the box fantastic. Get him relatively cheap too.
 
MemphisWill said:
I never said he was good.

Your opinion of him is a bit caricaturized. He's not nearly as bad as some make him out to be, but he's certainly not good enough to start for a team with CL aspirations. Covered this ground in length earlier in the summer.

I expect he'll be staying as a bench option, which is fine. So long as we aren't depending on him, I'd get money for Sanchez and possibly Tanganga while letting Dier run down his deal on the bench and benefit from his presence in the dressing room, rather than spunk £5M to pay him to play somewhere else and face the same lame duck season with Sanchez next year.

We signed Mickey, and hopefully we're still working to sign Tapsoba.
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He is that bad, he’s worse. He was a good player, cant discredit that but he’s added at least two stone since then and now he can barely move and he’s a cumbersome, passive oaf.
 
Hotspursinho said:
Fine, and what you are saying is not wrong but it’s without context. It’s like saying ‘Gift Orban is prolific in the Belgian league as a CF therefore he can play CF for Spurs.’ We don’t really know that.

Opposition matters and does add valid context to the conversation.
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Not the best anology because we do know Richarlison has been playing Premier League football and his best return is 13 in a season for Everton, I'm not saying that he's good enough to replace Kane (who is?) but there's literal evidence he can do a job.

And the context we are also forgetting about is that Richarlison is Brazil's starting striker over Jesus who by all accounts is a better player than Rich so why can't he get into their starting eleven?

Remember the original assortation was that 'he can't play as a Cf' he can and he has over the last 6-7 years for both club and country, that was the point.
 
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bunburyist said:
I simply don’t understand this angle of Dier being a leader.

You can be a leader and not be the best player on the pitch. You at least need to be middling but put in 100% all the time as an example. If Dier puts in 100% though it doesn’t matter as it’s 100% dog turd.

He is absolute toilet.

In fact, we’d probably be better off with an actual used toilet bowl out there on the pitch. It would occasionally get interceptions and put people off their game.

I actually prefer Sanchez, because at least there is a universe where he actually has a good game and uses his one attribute, pace. Albeit it not this one, but I find solace in that possibility.

There is no known universe or inception reality where Dier leads Spurs to anything other than eternal prison bukkake damnation.
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What if Harry said he would only sign a new deal if Eric got one too……..
 
To Dare Is To Do. said:
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