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FightingIllini said:
Yeah this really gets at the nugget of it.

In 2023 one can adopt a posture of savvy knowingness on the internet articulating that consumers are hogs and they will accept whatever The Powers That Be give them because they're slack-jawed rubes who don't know any different and have no other choice anyway.

I really think in the entertainment industry specifically (of which sports is a part), that notion is not going to age well over the next decade or so.

Capitalism ruthlessly serves the consumer dollar. There has been a forgetting of that in media, and when you find yourself afield of that core principal, you get punished.


Yeah we're just not on the same page here.

The College Football Super League, which is an inevitability now (to the sport's detriment), will find a way to retain the March Madness structure, because it goes without saying that the structure of the competition is inherent to its value proposition and it's a multibillion dollar cash cow in its own right despite being a dramatically less popular sport overall.
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It will retain the structure, with fewer teams, because no, no one really cares about Grand Canyon University if we can jump straight to, and be guaranteed without interference from anonymous schools, watching UCLA vs Kansas.

You're batting 1.000 at terrible sports business prognostication, and don't even see it. You're standing there, straight faced, arguing that college football super league is obviously happening before our eyes, yet applying to other sports all the same failed arguments about tradition, and history, and cultural significance others previously used for why it wouldn't happen.

It's all about the money. Daniel Levy, unfortunately, will win.
 
MemphisWill said:
no one really cares about Grand Canyon University if we can jump straight to, and be guaranteed without interference from anonymous schools, watching UCLA vs Kansas.
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None of these limeys have the slightest clue what we're talking about, which is a shame because you are off your damn rocker with this and I'd like the backup.

I don't even know where to start with the idea that you'd have a more valuable product if it didn't fit into the 64 team office pool bracket sheet.

MemphisWill said:
It's all about the money. Daniel Levy, unfortunately, will win.
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FightingIllini said:
Cynicism and wisdom are not synonyms, and the older I get the more I find them to be something close to opposites.
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Spaniel said:
Paris is a beautiful city...nothing like london
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100%. Sadly still full of scumbags and people making villages under bridges but I doubt there's anywhere in the world where you can throw a stone in any direction and find good people and great food.

Spaniel Spaniel

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OldBoy68 said:
100%. Sadly still full of scumbags and people making villages under bridges but I doubt there's anywhere in the world where you can throw a stone in any direction and find good people and great food.

Spaniel Spaniel https://tidal.com/browse/track/85663133
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I can’t say anything about Paris but I’ve been to Lyon a number of times and absolutely love that place. Amazing food, nice people, and not all of the crap that probably comes with Paris.
 
MemphisWill said:
Vastly more than Burnley v Fulham.

As pointed out, one of the least successful NFL clubs just sold for twice what Chelsea did. That's a definitive statement on the assessed value of the two competitions.
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NFL is there to make no risk profits for their owners, this is reflected in the price. is that how you are measuring value of a competition?

I have no problem admitting an owner would rather have the high profit margin, normally subsidised low risk NFL club over a low profit, higher risk PL team. It doesn't say anything about the competition though.

The bosman ruling probably stopped european football going the same way and if the US version was tried over here it's very likely regulation would prevent it.
 
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MVP said:
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Report: Talks between Spurs and Serie A club over midfielder 'already well advanced'

According to Gazzetta dello Sport (14/08/23 as relayed by Sport Witness), Napoli have already made a lot of progress in their talks with Tottenham over a...
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According to Gazzetta dello Sport (14/08/23 as relayed by Sport Witness), Napoli have already made a lot of progress in their talks with Tottenham over a deal for Giovani Lo Celso.

Lo Celso was one of Tottenham’s stand-out players during pre-season and Ange Postecoglou has admitted that the Argentine fits very well to the style of play he wants to implement at the North London club (Football.London).


However, it appears that Napoli are not giving up on their pursuit of the midfielder, with Gazzetta indicating that the Serie A side want to sign the player on an initial loan deal with an option to buy, similar to the Tanguy Ndombele deal last summer.


In fact, the outlet asserts that talks between Tottenham and the Italian club over Lo Celso are ‘already well advanced’ but they were suspended for a while as the Premier League side were focused on Harry Kane’s sale to Bayern.



It suggested that with the Kane move out of the way, Spurs and Napoli are now set to ‘resume’ their discussions over the 27-year-old in the ‘coming days’.

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I cannot see Tottenham considering offloading Lo Celso unless the club bring in an attacking midfielder such as Brennan Johnson or Eberechi Eze through the door over the next couple of weeks. As things stand, the Argentine is Ange Postecoglou’s main cover for James Maddison.
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Loan with buy option means loan and don’t take up the option.
 
ElYokko96 said:
Buy 4 players:
Nico Williams - 60 Million
Tapsoba - 60 Million
Veiga - 40 Million
Orban - 30 Million

190 Million

Sell:
Dier - 5m
Reguilon - 8m
Tanganga - 8m
Hojbjerg- 28m
Spence - 10m

59m

Net spend 131m + current net spend of 54m= 186m
Instant concurrence for top 4
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So another foreign players in and another 2 homegrown out +Kane makes 3. How would that affect the home grown rule.
 
ElYokko96 said:
Buy 4 players:
Nico Williams - 60 Million
Tapsoba - 60 Million
Veiga - 40 Million
Orban - 30 Million

190 Million

Sell:
Dier - 5m
Reguilon - 8m
Tanganga - 8m
Hojbjerg- 28m
Spence - 10m

59m

Net spend 131m + current net spend of 54m= 186m
Instant concurrence for top 4
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ILSpur said:
I can’t say anything about Paris but I’ve been to Lyon a number of times and absolutely love that place. Amazing food, nice people, and not all of the crap that probably comes with Paris.
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Never had the pleasure but spent a month in Grenoble which was pretty awesome. Paris for work and Marseille (Aix-en-Provence) for the summer. For some reason, the French are embarrassed about Marseille (possibly to do with the immigration) but it's amazing.

Despite the England away doing their best to fuck it for everyone during the Euros.
 
I know some of you are sceptical but £30m for Orban is okay. All the metrics for him are absurd. Obviously it is a risk but he could be worth triple in a year. We signed Veliz for £15m. That is more of a risk in my humble opinion.
 
What would have happened if we loaned scarlet or parrot to a Belgian side?
Would they have got 25 plus goals?
If so then orban probably isn’t worth buying if you see my logic?
 
simon j said:
What would have happened if we loaned scarlet or parrot to a Belgian side?
Would they have got 25 plus goals?
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League One is a significantly lower level and Scarlett bagged 6, and the Championship is probably roughly equivalent, the competition as a whole lower though when you consider Gent in the Europa League, and he bagged 4.

It's not even close. It's not even close to close.

Orban put in one of the most impressive goalscoring performances in Europe last year and he did it in his first season ever in professional football, let alone his first time in Europe.

It's really nuts. There aren't comps for what he did.

The Premier League is the best league in the world and ruthless at finding and exposing players' weaknesses though, and is a serial striker-killer. Definitely risk involved.
 
If we rated Orban nearly as highly as some people on here do, we'd have paid the 30m already. And if the elite clubs and their scouts rated him that highly too, they'd have paid the 30m already. 30m to top PL clubs is nothing, teams like Chelsea pay 25m for some player who just got in to the squad for a Ligue 1 team.

Clearly lots of teams have doubts, if the 30m price-tag is even close to true.
 
Since Tanguy...

8) Solomon, Vinícius, Richarlison, Bale, Kulusevski, Gil, Véliz, Danjuma

5) Hojbjerg, Maddison, Bentancur, Sarr, Bissouma

7) Porro, Royal, Reguilon, Udogie, Doherty, Spence, Perisic

5) Micky Pond, Rodon, Phillips, Romero, Lenglet

4) Vicario, Forster, Gollini, Hart
 
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