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Of course, however we are focusing on ENIC amongst this.

Is Chelsea £1Billion spend, yes also of course, but truly it’s likely a factored price they agreed to buy with Roman. Likewise, our owners blew their trumpet about injecting £150m.

They announced the injection of share income as they are legally obliged to.

Fans were individually responsible for the amount they did or didn't get gassed by the prospect of a supa-spend up.

How disingenuous is it, to say they are putting £150m in, only to reduce our usual spend in the Windows the injection happens?

Reduced from what amount to how much?

I don't see spend being reduced in the last 2 seasons... It's gone UP:

Both the last 2 seasons are above the average net spend too.

23/24 in 248.6 out 112.7 = 135.9m (inc. Porro/Kulu)
22/23 in 177.9 out 38.7 = 139.2m (not Porro/Kulu inc.)

21/22 in 95.9 out 34.6 = 61.3m
20/21 in 110.50 out 13.3 = 97.2m
19/20 in 150.5 out 64.5 = 86m

Prev avg net spend = €81.5m

New avg net spend = €103.92


........Also have to consider we were paying Conte a fucking mint too.
 
We should have been able to afford both an attacking player and a back up CB. It's not similar to you wanting to be a billionaire. Our owners are billionaires, and the fans pay for the most expensive tickets prices in the country- and this season some longstanding fans have been kicked out of their seats.


It wouldn't be 'unlucky'. We have Sanchez and Dier as back up CBs, that's negligent squad preparation.

If you had bothered looking at the squad we are overweight in 'players trained overseas' but had a vacancy as an HG player

Of the potential HG, CB players Tosin had been approached several times, but clearly didn't want to be 3rd rated CB.

However Johnson, an HG player was up for it and Ange as a proponent of attacking play was for it.

So what you say is IRRELEVANT because you have never bothered to understand anything about squad building

Give up football as you don't understand it and find a sport which you do understand.
 
They announced the injection of share income as they are legally obliged to.

Fans were individually responsible for the amount they did or didn't get gassed by the prospect of a supa-spend up.



Reduced from what amount to how much?

I don't see spend being reduced in the last 2 seasons... It's gone UP:

Both the last 2 seasons are above the average net spend too.

23/24 in 248.6 out 112.7 = 135.9m (inc. Porro/Kulu)
22/23 in 177.9 out 38.7 = 139.2m (not Porro/Kulu inc.)

21/22 in 95.9 out 34.6 = 61.3m
20/21 in 110.50 out 13.3 = 97.2m
19/20 in 150.5 out 64.5 = 86m

Prev avg net spend = €81.5m

New avg net spend = €103.92


........Also have to consider we were paying Conte a fucking mint too.
Was going to reply, with a reduction of £100m from 22 and £50m from 23.

Then saw you’ve used Euros!

OK:

2022/2023 -£100m (€117m) = €22.2m Net Spend
2023/2024 -£50m (€58.5m) = €77.4m Net Spend

So, using your exactly formula (but reducing the capital injection promised):

Prev avg net spend = €81.5m

New avg net spend = €49.8m

CAPICHE?!!!
 
Was going to reply, with a reduction of £100m from 22 and £50m from 23.

Then saw you’ve used Euros!

OK:

2022/2023 -£100m (€117m) = €22.2m Net Spend
2023/2024 -£50m (€58.5m) = €77.4m Net Spend

So, using your exactly formula (but reducing the capital injection promised):

Prev avg net spend = €81.5m

New avg net spend = €49.8m

CAPICHE?!!!
Why do you bother with this net spend crap. Only the clubs know how much is spent each year.
50m received is probably split over 3 4 or 5 seasons. When we bought Sissoko it was 6m per year over 5 years, prob why we bought him.
The only figures you can trust are on the balance sheet every year.
 
Was going to reply, with a reduction of £100m from 22 and £50m from 23.

Then saw you’ve used Euros!

OK:

2022/2023 -£100m (€117m) = €22.2m Net Spend
2023/2024 -£50m (€58.5m) = €77.4m Net Spend

So, using your exactly formula (but reducing the capital injection promised):

Prev avg net spend = €81.5m

New avg net spend = €49.8m

CAPICHE?!!!

Why are you persisting with this crack-pot idea that money "injected" doesn't count?

ENIC injected an additional 150m quid into the club last summer...... Although never stated to be solely for trf fees; our spending over the last 2 seasons has visibly risen.



If you expect to see a direct correlation of 100m extra spend last summer and 50m extra spent this summer that's not gonna happen cos CASH outgoings of the player expenditure doesn't operate that way:

total new outgoing commitment 2022 minus 100m
total new outgoing commitment 2023 minus 50m


.....Is a concept not based in accounting reality. It's just primitive fan-think.


The only way you get to satisfy your curiosity on the level that you're picking things apart (i.e. past 2 summers budgets minus and potential "injected" extra) is to dig out the accounts and do a full 'autopsy' of cash flow, available balances, amortisation, money owed, budget vs actual etc. etc...........

If you're up for that and indeed up to the task; cool..... Get back to us when you've finished and let us know what you've found.


(IIRC, last year we owed more on outstanding trf fee installments than most of the league.... In practical terms that 150m may well just be used to balance off against that figure when the accounts are submitted; without ever impacting on the so-called annual trf fee budget for 2022 or 2023...... Neither of us know specifically how it gets allocated..... It's just cash into the pipeline.)
 
If you had bothered looking at the squad we are overweight in 'players trained overseas' but had a vacancy as an HG player

Of the potential HG, CB players Tosin had been approached several times, but clearly didn't want to be 3rd rated CB.

However Johnson, an HG player was up for it and Ange as a proponent of attacking play was for it.
I am well aware of this.

But we could have bought a CB, tried to sell Dier/ Sanchez if possible, and if we couldn't... simply not include Dier in our PL squad list.

So squad numbers was not a reason to not invest in another CB that we needed.

So what you say is IRRELEVANT because you have never bothered to understand anything about squad building
I think I do actually- in fact I've written an OP explaining how the UEFA HG rules work: Stats - Spurs HG Quota Status (Summer 2022 Update)
(The PL HG rules are easier to satisfy and less complicated than the UEFA rules).

Give up football as you don't understand it and find a sport which you do understand.
Sure- but which alternative sport do you recommend?
 
Plus the 10m Loan fee. Fact.
Not worth every penny.
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