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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024
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By carrier pigeon
People keep saying that Eze can go by players on either foot yet every time I've watched him and going by all the compilations he cuts inside.
Anyway so the difference with Olise is that he's comfortable going both ways utilising the wide area of the pitch and attacking where the space is.
This goal for example, look where he takes the ball and where he takes his man on before cutting inside and shooting, guy created that opportunity for himself all by isolating the full back and gong round the outside and using his right foot.
View: https://youtu.be/tKp9HLdQ1vU?t=91
I'd say he's less predictable than Eze as well, his body orientation isn't so obvious on where he wants to go, I just think that Eze maybe harder to stop because of his strength/size but Olise is a bit more unpredictable in his wing play.
Football of course doesn't work like that but I'm just looking out for the best interests in the team and how to get the best out of Ange's system, we've literally seen the same system when Pep had City playing this style but he had 2 traditional wingers on the touch line who had so much joy isolating their full backs because they constantly attacked the space.
Wouldn't olise cost more than Eze?
Yes but I'm not campaigning to sign Olise, just pointing out that he's a better fit profile wise than Eze.
He would and hes even more 1 footed and disinterested in pressing whe he doesn’t have the ball
People keep saying that Eze can go by players on either foot yet every time I've watched him and going by all the compilations he cuts inside.
Anyway so the difference with Olise is that he's comfortable going both ways utilising the wide area of the pitch and attacking where the space is.
This goal for example, look where he takes the ball and where he takes his man on before cutting inside and shooting, guy created that opportunity for himself all by isolating the full back and gong round the outside and using his right foot.
View: https://youtu.be/tKp9HLdQ1vU?t=91
I'd say he's less predictable than Eze as well, his body orientation isn't so obvious on where he wants to go, I just think that Eze maybe harder to stop because of his strength/size but Olise is a bit more unpredictable in his wing play.
Football of course doesn't work like that but I'm just looking out for the best interests in the team and how to get the best out of Ange's system, we've literally seen the same system when Pep had City playing this style but he had 2 traditional wingers on the touch line who had so much joy isolating their full backs because they constantly attacked the space.
see if you can find more clips of Olise doing that and he still comes in side to get a shot off. don’t recall seeing him holding width to get crosses in with his right. Disagree about body shape as well. Olise dribbles with a massive bias to his left, Eze a more upright mover with the ball and uses his balance and a drop of the shoulder to go by people. I like both of them but to say Olise is a better fit for our system I don’t agree at all.
Eze does normally move infield initially but then has the ability to go by people in both directions more so than Olise anyway. The only reservation I’d have with Eze is his work off the ball. He can be a bit lazy but in the final third he would take us up a level
Mate, you won’t even name a player you’d like us to sign for fear the might not work and then you can’t complain.. all you do is cover yourself with the same ‘20 years of levy’ shit again and again.. offer a view on a player, tactics, try contribute? It’s a transfer thread.Ahh...Shadydan , first post on return and already applying his excuse lube just in case we somehow miss out
. Despite being his obvious first choice destination.
Anyway, that aside.......
All you do is come in a post one or your 10 posts we’ve all seen 100 times
Disagree completely. Have seen a lot of him threading disguised eye of the needle passes. He’s very good at it.
Sure, but they have to do Medicals etc etc it’s a big distraction
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFF_RQXZ5jw&t=719s
2:51
4:05
Anyway the point of posting that clip was to show you that he's comfortable at using his right and attacking the space on the outside and that he's more capable of holding width as opposed to drifting inside, also the point wasn't about whether he is able to get a shot off, it was merely showing you how he attacked the space.
Obviously he's going to be left foot biased but in terms of his dribbling he is happy to use his right foot and stretch the defence the other way, that's the difference between him and Eze, Eze will almost always cut inside because he's more comfortable at doing it, Olise sometimes will go on his right just to keep width.
In fact I've been trying to look for something similar for Eze but can't find anything, unless you can show me where he's comfortable at taking players on his left foot and running the defender the other way up the touchline, I haven't seen anything to suggest that.
Maddison was in the 99th and 98th percentile for progressive passes and attempted passes respectively last season, Eze by the same metric was the 59th and 61st, they are very different players - just because he can do it doesn't mean he excels at it.
If you want to get the most out of Eze it isn't forcing him to pass and control games and become a playmaker isn't the way forward.
Yes i do actually but like with Woolwich, the big marquee signing(s) won't happen until the squad/team needs minimal work - if we need to strengthen in multiple positions then there's less money per transfer to go around than if we only have a need for 2 or 3 signings - when we reach that point i don't see any reason to think we won't spend big on the right players.
Southgate has said this about transfers so the euros might not make as much difference as people think to the transfer market. Not as much as PSR anyway.
Look, I’ve never banned players from having [transfer] discussions," the England boss said after his side lost 1-0 to Iceland at Wembley in the final friendly before the tournament. "It’s a fact of life, even if transfers don’t complete, talks are ongoing, normally across the summer with players, I’m always there for them if they want to bounce things off.
“I’m always saying to them, don’t get het up about things. Things will take their natural course. We are in a world where there might have to be deals done quickly, who knows but we’re comfortable with dealing with all those things."
Look, I’ve never banned players from having [transfer] discussions," the England boss said after his side lost 1-0 to Iceland at Wembley in the final friendly before the tournament. "It’s a fact of life, even if transfers don’t complete, talks are ongoing, normally across the summer with players, I’m always there for them if they want to bounce things off.
“I’m always saying to them, don’t get het up about things. Things will take their natural course. We are in a world where there might have to be deals done quickly, who knows but we’re comfortable with dealing with all those things."
95% of those clips are him driving infield on his left. As I said Eze does come infield initially the vast majority of the time but in the final third he does have the ability to take it by people either side. He doesn’t hold width(neither does Olise) but he does take people out of the game and create space. He’s not a 1 dimensional dribbler
I've just shown you 3 times where he's willing to go on his weaker foot, that's 3 more times than anyone has shown me or I've seen Eze doing the same thing.
I think it means they're preparing to consider
I like him but really thinking about things I don't know if he's the player we really need.
The type of player we all thought we needed was Nico Williams…
Then we signed Werner and haven’t been linked to anyone even slightly like Nico Williams.
Seems completely pointless to guess what player we need.
3 times is enough of a difference to be right for a system or not then. The big thing is beating people in those areas. As long as you’re taking players out of the game and drawing others out to create space for you or others to take advantage of it doesn’t matter if he uses his left foot to cross a ball once or twice a season.
1 time - that goal against Luton should have been enough to tell you that one player is considerably more beneficial at playing in our system, let alone the other 2. Gonna need more evidence of Eze going both ways like Olise before that transfer can convince me.