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Transfers Summer Transfer thread - 2024

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Are you saying there's a chance that TFC posters might not know what they're talking about?

How Dare You Greta GIF

Perish the thought

Poster rated last summer 4/10 because he said he knew nothing about Vicario ......

Which is a great reason to rate a window if you say you know nothing about players :wall:
 
I think we've had a diabolical window.

If you'd sat here and said we've have signed Werner back on loan, Gray, Solanke, and a young Burnley winger that literally nobody had heard of despite him playing in the PL last season, I wouldn't have believed it.

That isn't anything near enough. We haven't improved the first 11 at all, despite limping in the PL since November.

We may have just about improved at CF with Solanke, but that has yet to be seen, and I don't feel he is massively better than Richie, he's just more available.

We haven't improved in CM and we haven't improved our wide players. They were our biggest areas of concern this window!

With Son pretty much needing to be taken out to pastures new imminently, we are now faced with signing two top quality wide forwards rather than just one next season.

Relying on Gray and Bergvall is just mental for the season. They need to be eased in, same with Odobert, but we have basically with our transfer strategy decided to pin our season on three teenagers to close the gap to the top 2 / 4.

It's just funny how many fans bury their heads in the hand and think its all positive when we are being mugged off by the club, every season is the same and we always fall short. Levy just doesn't ever push the boat out and pay the money needed to get top deals over the line.

I'm just sick of our approach. it's never win now, always a project which never quite goes anywhere. When we were on the verge of actually challening, we didn't sign anyone at all. Where as Woolwich go out and spend 100 mill on Rice. Does anyone seriously believe if we finish 3rd next season, the club will push the boat out and sign two one or top tier players? It won't, it'll be another few kids or back up targets from clubs where Levy feels we can take advantage.

Going into season 2 of a new project it's imperative you improve the first team. Who is our alternative to Maddison when he stinks the place out again for 6 months or gets injured? Kulu? the guy we all wanted gone last season because he hasn't played well for about 18 months, but a few good preseason games and apparently he's good enough now?

Our top two targets were Eze and Neto? What happened? Wouldn't play the money for Eze and Neto we pissed around on the deal thinking we could save money and Chelsea swooped in. Same old story, we should have bene aggressive and signed him up weeks ago. I guarantee he would have signed for us if we'd agreed a deal earlier in the summer. But we waited for Chelsea to get their act together and that was it.

I'm not a fan of Ange, but this window to me has put the nail in the coffin for him. I think he's going to fail anyway, but this window has extinguished the last hope he had of success here.

By the time Gray and Berg and Odobert are lighting up the PL, if they ever do, it'll be about four or five years from now. By then Romero will be long gone, probably VDV too. and we will need half a dozen new players from elsewhere and the cycle continues.

As ever I hope I am wrong, I'll run around naked if we have a great season, but I'll be stunned.
Great post mate.

Any Spurs fan that genuinely cares about the club would find it impossible to argue against almost all of them points
 
Yes you said the same last summer despite bringing in Vicario, Ven de Venn, Udogie arriving still unknown a year after signing, Maddison, Johnson, Veliz and Solomon.

If we have the same success rate as last summer in terms of impact on the team, most will think it a very decent window
This one is a much tougher window to assess as the true impact will only be felt down the line.

Gray for 40m, Odobert for 30m, Solanke for 65m, Yang Min Hyuk for 15m. Obviously 3 of those players are 19 or younger so their potential impact won't be seen for a couple years.

So of course if these players do go on to be mustard, then it could be a great window when re-assessing in 2027. It could be a 9/10.

But I am highly inclined to agree with Aphex that for here and now, this was not a good window, as we didn't strengthen the first team at all, outside of one position, didn't address much needed depth for LB, CB, or CM, and essentially have left the season up to Bergvall, Gray, Moore, and Odobert being high level first team contributors despite being 18 years old.
 
I think we've had a diabolical window.

If you'd sat here and said we've have signed Werner back on loan, Gray, Solanke, and a young Burnley winger that literally nobody had heard of despite him playing in the PL last season, I wouldn't have believed it.

That isn't anything near enough. We haven't improved the first 11 at all, despite limping in the PL since November.

We may have just about improved at CF with Solanke, but that has yet to be seen, and I don't feel he is massively better than Richie, he's just more available.

We haven't improved in CM and we haven't improved our wide players. They were our biggest areas of concern this window!

With Son pretty much needing to be taken out to pastures new imminently, we are now faced with signing two top quality wide forwards rather than just one next season.

Relying on Gray and Bergvall is just mental for the season. They need to be eased in, same with Odobert, but we have basically with our transfer strategy decided to pin our season on three teenagers to close the gap to the top 2 / 4.

It's just funny how many fans bury their heads in the hand and think its all positive when we are being mugged off by the club, every season is the same and we always fall short. Levy just doesn't ever push the boat out and pay the money needed to get top deals over the line.

I'm just sick of our approach. it's never win now, always a project which never quite goes anywhere. When we were on the verge of actually challening, we didn't sign anyone at all. Where as Woolwich go out and spend 100 mill on Rice. Does anyone seriously believe if we finish 3rd next season, the club will push the boat out and sign two one or top tier players? It won't, it'll be another few kids or back up targets from clubs where Levy feels we can take advantage.

Going into season 2 of a new project it's imperative you improve the first team. Who is our alternative to Maddison when he stinks the place out again for 6 months or gets injured? Kulu? the guy we all wanted gone last season because he hasn't played well for about 18 months, but a few good preseason games and apparently he's good enough now?

Our top two targets were Eze and Neto? What happened? Wouldn't play the money for Eze and Neto we pissed around on the deal thinking we could save money and Chelsea swooped in. Same old story, we should have bene aggressive and signed him up weeks ago. I guarantee he would have signed for us if we'd agreed a deal earlier in the summer. But we waited for Chelsea to get their act together and that was it.

I'm not a fan of Ange, but this window to me has put the nail in the coffin for him. I think he's going to fail anyway, but this window has extinguished the last hope he had of success here.

By the time Gray and Berg and Odobert are lighting up the PL, if they ever do, it'll be about four or five years from now. By then Romero will be long gone, probably VDV too. and we will need half a dozen new players from elsewhere and the cycle continues.

As ever I hope I am wrong, I'll run around naked if we have a great season, but I'll be stunned.
You made some really good points which I agree with.
I do wonder if, they are gambling on being back in the top four in 3or 4 years time.
I think the club will finish 7th or 8th this year, another 50 or 60 goals conceded as well.
 
The next 10 are very difficult. Seriously, by December we could easily be 12th/13th especially if we don't respond well to the rigours of Europa League. That's why depth is necessary at LB and CM.
We don’t need depth

We have depth - we’ve been binned some truly fucking shit players like PEH, Royal, Skipp, Sess etc

We need two first team players to get shit like blow job and son out the side
 
We went into the window wanting a striker and a wide player, and ended with Solanke, who's a good experienced player, and Odobert. The way this transfer window will be seen will depend massively on whether Odobert hits the ground running.
 
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