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Winks as holding mid is like half our problem right now. His defensive positioning/instincts are just not good enough for a 6, and Toby/Jan are not the Toby and Jan from 2-3 years ago to make up for it.
Winks is one of the only players really putting the work in. He's being a leader and tries to shift the pace of the game with forward runs. Long term he may not be the solution, but if sanchez is behind with Foyth, they have the legs. It's not perfect but it's better to have one quality and one good CB that are fully committed and young than two older centre backs that aren't trying.Winks as holding mid is like half our problem right now. His defensive positioning/instincts are just not good enough for a 6, and Toby/Jan are not the Toby and Jan from 2-3 years ago to make up for it.
No one is questioning Winks' efforts its the result. I'm sure Kane tried really hard as keeper on that free kick in the Europa a few years back but the ball still went in the net.Winks is one of the only players really putting the work in. He's being a leader and tries to shift the pace of the game with forward runs. Long term he may not be the solution, but if sanchez is behind with Foyth, they have the legs. It's not perfect but it's better to have one quality and one good CB that are fully committed and young than two older centre backs that aren't trying.
Aurier is just so awful right now, he's not exactly dani Alves going forward, just stick Dier in. He will love to be back in the team and put his heart in, he's more defensive minded but can cross a ball and has put in some great performances at RB in the past.
Is there a reason why Foyth can't play as a DM? Outside of him never doing it before. Feel like he could make the switch like Dier and have a big impact there. Rather have him there at RB.
I do think Lo Celso have Ndombele have good defensive instincts for 8s, for with our back line we need a true 6.
Does Foyth have a natural position? He played further up before moving to CB at 17 I think. Again, we have no DMs it seems.We bought both Foyth and Sanchez as CBs.
Can't we just play people in their natural position?
Foyth has all the makings of a fantastic CDM in my opinion.Does Foyth have a natural position? He played further up before moving to CB at 17 I think. Again, we have no DMs it seems.
Sanchez is a fucking CB though.
You've saved me a lot of typing. Thanks.Let's look at the goals conceded this season so far:
1- Aston Villa - McGinn -ball over the top from deep in their half. Didn't track runner
2 - Man City - Sterling, cross from relatively deep, nipped in back post
3- Man City - Aguero - cross from byline, tap in
4 - Newcastle - Joelinton - cross from relatively deep, caught flat footed
5 - Woolwich - Lacazette defensive error Winks, tried passing out got caught
6 - Woolwich - Aubemayang - cross from relatively deep, caught around the back
7 - Olympiakos - Podensa - give and go down our left, flat footed Davies lost his man
8- Olympiakos - Valbuena Pen - defensive error Eriksen, passing out from back & got caught, Vertonghen lunged in and gave away cheap penalty.
9- Leicester - Ricardo - Ball lost via Sissoko. Aurier didn't track back, cross and tap in
10 - Leicester - Maddison - ball lost by Wanyama, long range effort Maddison
11 - Southampton - Ings - pass back and calamity by Lloris
12 - Bayern - Kimmich, Rose didn't track back but it was a good goal, no complaints
13- Bayern - Lewandowski - Ndombele should have cleared didn't, lost possession
14- Bayern - Gnabry - Aurier lunged in, missed his tackle nd left Gnabry vs Toby
15- Bayern- Gnabry - Winks loses possession in dangerous are, punished instantly
16- Bayern - Gnabry - ball over the top, Aurier didn't track back, great finish 1v1
17- Bayern - Lewandowski - Alderweireld poor pass out from back, easy goal
18- Bayern - Gnabry - Aurier poor pass out from back, easy goal
18 goals conceded. 2 from deep balls over the top from their defence, 3 from relatively deep crosses from the wing around the back of our defence, 2 byline tap ins, 8 (EIGHT!!) conceded trying to pass out from the back (9 if you include Lloris's error against the Saints) and a few through Aurier and Rose not tracking their runners.
Our issues are defensive. We have lost possession in our own half, leading to goals scored 9 times in 9 games. Add to that the 2 long balls from deep (McGinn & Gnabry) as well as the relatively deep crosses that have led to similar goals against Sterling, Joelinton and Aubemayang and that simp,y isn't good enough.
Nine times we've been caught short trying to pas out from the back this season alone! (Lacazette, Valbuena penalty, Ricardo, Maddison, Ings, Lewandowski, Gnabry, Lewandowski, Gnabry). We are haemorrhaging goals with purely lax and casual mindsets. 3-4 of those goals given up were on the edge of our box (Lacazette, Valbuena pen, Lewandowski 1st goal) all came from dangerous moments when we had won possession back, only to choose to pass out instead of clear our lines.
The breakdown of our goals conceded leaves me feeling that we need to get back to basics and just clear our lines. Do that and switch on more when it comes to deep crosses (we've conceded 5 from balls played into our box from further than 25 yards out of goal) and we will steady the ship.
The amount of errors we make are what holds us back. They need to respect the opposition more!
NINE mistakes passing out at the back, TWO long range passes from defence, THREE mid deep crosses around the back and FOUR through fullbacks not tracking their runner. Shocking!
On THREE occasions we have conceded in the 45th minute this season, an drew on THREE occasions we have conceded within 10 minutes of the 2nd half starting. Brain farts all over the joint,we need to snap out of it!!!
Wanyama was good, but i always like Dier as our holding midfielder.
On defense he clogged up the middle of the park.
On the attack, he dropped back making it almost a back three. Things just worked back then.
I'm sorry but this would be the worst managing ever. Drop a young lad who is working his ass off and improving? He's not technically the best but he's a workman similar to a Jordan Henderson for me.No one is questioning Winks' efforts its the result. I'm sure Kane tried really hard as keeper on that free kick in the Europa a few years back but the ball still went in the net.
Again, I'm not saying Winks should be dropped, but he's not good enough to be a bang on starter and he should not be a DM when he does play.
Disagree I prefer him at RB.Does Foyth have a natural position? He played further up before moving to CB at 17 I think. Again, we have no DMs it seems.
Sanchez is a fucking CB though.
Inside Tottenham's collapse: Tensions grow as players question Pochettino's tactics
Sources have told ESPN FC that some senior players are not happy with the tactical systems, starting with the diamond midfield 4-3-1-2, recently used by Pochettino. It enables Son Heung Min and Harry Kane to play together up front but the midfield is more exposed, as are the flanks, and Spurs have only kept two clean sheets this season (against Crystal Palace and Colchester) in 10 matches in all competitions.
Then there is the flat 4-4-2, also used this season, which left Tottenham too weak in central midfield, as we saw against Woolwich. Against Bayern, Pochettino started with a 4-3-1-2 and then moved to a 4-4-2 after 30 minutes when his team started to struggle. Neither worked. "We get tired too quickly physically when we play with a diamond midfield," Moussa Sissoko admitted on French TV channel RMC Sport on Tuesday night.
The players also don't understand why Pochettino has told them to dial back the pressing, a tactic that was a success last season.