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spooky said:Dashmore - John Crace touches on that in his book about how Utd fans have changed since Fergie arrived and some of their fans don't even know what its like to truly suffer.
In a perverse way, all those horrible things that go into surviving Tottenham make us the self-deprecating fans we are. I don't think I could ever be comfortable with us winning 10 titles on the trot.
Like I said, if our next cycle brings silverware and we do so consistently for 5-10 years, I will bask in it and I wont complain when we fall back into normality again.
The new fans we pick up along the way will no doubt be similar to the ones with their 'Wenger Out' banners, beyond the Seven Sisters.
Babs said:mdiver said:If we move the name carries on but it isn't our Spurs anymore, no more than MK Dons are Wimbledon anymore.
it's not the same though is it, one moved about 40 miles north, the other is planning to move 5 miles south.
Babs said:....So, either get busy living or get busy dying because THFC will never be the same regardless of where they play.
dashmore said:Babs said:....So, either get busy living or get busy dying because THFC will never be the same regardless of where they play.
Babs said:I moved home yet I'm the same person, clubs move 5 miles or more all the time yet retain their identity.
Football is a competitive endevour and you're either moving forwards or you're going backwards, the status quo you wish for is an illusion.
So, either get busy living or get busy dying because THFC will never be the same regardless of where they play.
Pilgrim said:Babs said:I moved home yet I'm the same person, clubs move 5 miles or more all the time yet retain their identity.
Football is a competitive endevour and you're either moving forwards or you're going backwards, the status quo you wish for is an illusion.
So, either get busy living or get busy dying because THFC will never be the same regardless of where they play.
Yeah but Babs, you're not called Peter Harrow are you? No one gives a toss if you leave your area - in fact local parents are probably delighted.
The problem with football clubs is their names. If Spurs were just called Hotspur - or just Spurs - it would be less problematic. But being called Tottenham Hotspur and leaving Tottenham would have to involve a name change. Just like when the Dodgers et al upped sticks.
dashmore said:spooky said:Dashmore - John Crace touches on that in his book about how Utd fans have changed since Fergie arrived and some of their fans don't even know what its like to truly suffer.
In a perverse way, all those horrible things that go into surviving Tottenham make us the self-deprecating fans we are. I don't think I could ever be comfortable with us winning 10 titles on the trot.
Like I said, if our next cycle brings silverware and we do so consistently for 5-10 years, I will bask in it and I wont complain when we fall back into normality again.
The new fans we pick up along the way will no doubt be similar to the ones with their 'Wenger Out' banners, beyond the Seven Sisters.
If I wanted to win 10 titles on the trot, I would of supported United growing up, everyone else in Ireland did (bandwagon cunts). The misery Tottenham piled on me during the 90s was akin to the worst kind of school yard bullying. All these twats with Berg and Cantona on their backs tearing me apart emotionally, goading me as to why I supported Tottenham, coercing me to join them 'you win all the time, it's great'.
I liken it to Obi-Wan. 'You can't win Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possible imagine'.
Supporting a team for me is not about winning. It's enduring, and fuck me has there been a lot of that. It's loving the shirt no matter what. I love the fact that we are on the cusp of top 4. I love the fact we have done it the right way. If we were to move from N17, then fuck it; let a Billionaire buy us. Move to the OS. Change the home kit to red. If that wins us trophies then.....
Babs said:I moved home yet I'm the same person, clubs move 5 miles or more all the time yet retain their identity.
Football is a competitive endevour and you're either moving forwards or you're going backwards, the status quo you wish for is an illusion.
So, either get busy living or get busy dying because THFC will never be the same regardless of where they play.