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The "crisis" is driven by what our rivals do, what they have spent, when they win whilst we lose.

Think the more accurate explanation is that journalists need to find 'sensational' news to attract 'readers' (clicks leading to ad revenues or newsstand sales) so they'll look round and say '2 losses' , great, I can write about Spurs being in crisis comparing them with their rivals. I even saw one guy comparing Spurs transfer window activity with Wham's and declaring Wham had obviously won that - neglecting to look at who had the better squad or indeed that Wham has only won one match this season.

So the 'crisis' I think is mainly driven by media need to find a story, its not really driven by what our rivals are doing - even when ManCity lose at home to Lyon.
 
The only thing worthy of the media witch hunt, is realising there's a hidden agenda, and always has been!

It will only stop, when WE win the League, which... unfortunately isn't ALWAYS in our hands... but hey, that's the way it goes.
We plough on regardless... fuck the rest!
SERIOUSLY... FUCK THE REST!

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Think the more accurate explanation is that journalists need to find 'sensational' news to attract 'readers' (clicks leading to ad revenues or newsstand sales) so they'll look round and say '2 losses' , great, I can write about Spurs being in crisis comparing them with their rivals. I even saw one guy comparing Spurs transfer window activity with Wham's and declaring Wham had obviously won that - neglecting to look at who had the better squad or indeed that Wham has only won one match this season.

So the 'crisis' I think is mainly driven by media need to find a story, its not really driven by what our rivals are doing - even when ManCity lose at home to Lyon.
Sure, can't disagree with that.

But trust me, there would be minimal melting if our rivals had also lost. So many posts in here discussing what the problem was, trying to articulate the subs or the tactics but in the next sentence also talking about what "Liverpool" have done by comparison. The two aren't mutually exclusive. (It's not just this fanbase it's others too, Woolwich's meltdowns and protests were magnified by our rise, no scum fan could hold a conversation discussing their club without mentioning Tottenham).

Had all our rivals lost too, then the post-mortem of our performance is focussed on the tactics and the issues of the game, there is no pressure to bring in what another club is doing or has done.
 
We do get too paranoid though

The press/media are always looking for a crisis story. Now it's Spurs, three weeks ago but was Man Utd. In a couple of weeks time it will be some other club

I take it as a compliment. We are now a big club, a challenger, we are there to be shot at when the tiniest thing goes wrong.

Calm down peeps
 
Going on the title of the thread:

1. Owners are tight on spending.
2. No ambition to win the PL or CL.
3. Content with top 4.
4. Still find it weird embarrassing not to sign a single player.
5. Got the new stadium planning and timing totally wrong and even worse unable to rectify it smoothly.
6. The club did not consolidate on last 3 seasons superb achievements, finishing above manure, liverpool, woolwich and chelski. Today's team looks weaker than manures, liverpools, chelskis and cities.
7. Players contacts not sorted.
8. The manager using cryptic language.

On the bright side, we had nothing going our way on the pitch in the last few weeks, this will change during a long season and we need some luck too so still hopeful of having a good season, top 4 and a trophy.
 
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When he starts, we win?

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I remember someone digging out a stat that pointed out that we won a wast majority of the games Sissoko played in last season in an attempt to win the eternal Sissoko debate.

Obviously a stat that only showcased the fact that he played those games and not how involved he was in goals scored/conceeded.
 
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Next summer we have to ship out Vorm, Rose, sadly Toby will go, Dembele will as well, Sissoko needs to go as does one of Dier or Wanyama, Nkoudou, Janssen, Llorente and worst case situation we need to accept a bid for Eriksen should he not sign a new deal. Realistically that's about ten players for different reasons we shave off of our books.

The club needs to splash out on good quality, it needs to be brave and throw substantial money at full back, defensive midfield, central midfield in a big way and for me I'd like another tricky player to complement our direct qualities with Sonny, Lucas etc. We desperately need one more offensive player with swagger. That's a whole lot of wedge we will be spending or we will undo about four years worth of growth due to stinginess.

From what I see in Ndombele he would add something nice but if I had the choice I'd go for a Lobotka, De Jong midfield, bring Denis Suarez in to offer depth and rotation and if Eriksen is to be sold I'd insist it's only a deal if we get a player back from Barca or Madrid in return.

I don't care about a lack of height, if we concede from set pieces it happens but I'd like to see proper class come in and there is definitely enough of it loitering on the fringes of good teams for us to make moves on. We simply have to ensure we continue progressing and I feel the team has become a little too reliant on the same key guys which is a disappointment as we had a unit that didn't do so.

Lloris, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Eriksen, Dele, Lucas & Kane for me are the ones you keep in the starting XI, the others apart from Son, Sanchez, Trippier & Foyth we need to keep an eye on as all can be replaced with better quality for a team of our stature. I make that 11 players from a 25 man squad that I'm happy with, there's a lot of things we should be doing behind the scenes to ensure the number of real quality gets raised substantially over the next couple of windows and a lot of fringe players that need to step up or ship out
Massive changes to the squad does not work. That was the problem with the Bale replacements. The ideal is 1/2 per season. Because of our inactivity this summer we still as you point out have problems to solve but we cannot lose that many players without risking a much worse start to the season than this year.
 
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