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Spurs 79 points
Liverpool (A) 0, Brighton (H) 3, Huddersfield (H) 3, Man City (A) 0, West Ham (H) 3, Bournemouth (A) 3, Everton (H) 3, Palace (H) 3 - (18 points)

Man Utd: 79 points
Woolwich (A) 1, Watford (H) 3, Wolves (A) 3, West Ham (H) 3, Everton (A) 3, Man City (H) 1, Chelsea (H) 1, Huddersfield (A) 3, Cardiff (H) 3 - (21 points)

Chelsea: 79 points
Wolves (H) 3, Everton (A) 3, Cardiff (A) 3, West Ham (H) 3, Liverpool (A) 0, Brighton (H) 3, Burnley (H) 3, Man Utd (A) 1, Watford (H) 3, Leicester (A) 1 - (23 points)

Woolwich: 75 points
Man Utd (H) 1, Newcastle (H) 3, Everton (A) 3, Watford (A) 0, Palace (H) 3, Wolves (A) 1, Leicester (A) 1, Brighton (H) 3, Burnley (A) 3 - (18 points)

Wolves holding Chelsea to a draw just goes to show nothing is predictable
 
I had been looking at Woolwich's ridiculous Ropey league journey and would have bet a vital organ that their season would be ruined by it alone. With trips to Ukraine,Azerbaijan and Belarus. Chelsea have also had a torrid season with their own players in revolt against their manager ( also in the europa league). Manchester United's manager left mid-season.Yet for some reason we are competing against these teams for a top 4 place now. what the f*ck is our excuse? And there is a serious chance we won't qualify for the champions league this season given our upcoming fixtures. Poch and the team probably need to clear the air in order to stop the rot!
 
How ironic that one of the main gripes in our support plus numerous other halfwits that's got fuck all to do we us yet makes it their business is the fact "we haven't won anything" we are "bottles" blah blah and we've a thread about finishing fecking FOURTH!!!!! not about a league decider or a cup semi or final about finishing fourth......do we get a cup for that?
 
Forget the players we didn’t sign, coulda/shoulda signed etc etc, it all boils down to the fucking weak minded bunch of players we sent into battle the past 6 weeks, keeping in mind they are the same players who took us to within one win of actually being in a title race, and the 1/4 finals of the CL.....They can not all be bad players overnight.....but when the meat hits the metal they break down like little girls getting dumped by their first boyfriend....
Same old story year after fucking year.....

What would we get for 200m?
Splash out 70m or so for a world class Centre half? Sure, but we already have one who sat at home yesterday for some strange reason, Southampton away must not have been that important a game!!

Star players, or players who think they are stars might be a better term, need to take a hard bloody look in the mirror....starting with Eriksen, who has been absolutely tripe since this rut began.

Pochettino needs to also wise the fuck up too.....it’s D-day son, so start picking your best 11 every game and stop chopping and changing players around.....if you need some help understanding this then take a look at how the two teams going for the title operate week in week out!!!
 
trouble is there are not many players out there that will stand toe to toe with a team mate and tell him to pull his finger out, players are too nice to each other
sometimes we all need a kick up the backside
one team I played for in grassroots had a guy Ken Brandston who if you put in a few bad passes would warn you, then any more he would come over and lay one on you,
he said "I don't train most nights for you to muck up my match time fun"
 
Point is.... we shouldn't have to.... but because of the LUDICROUSLY disgusting amounts spent on a PL title winning team... we're left with little option...

Either join them (and sell your soul) or watch them (and wonder WHY we didn't sell our souls!)

It's a conundrum alright!
Yeah, that obscene amount of ££ has made me dislike football more. It is a shame its such a big factor.
 
Tottenham defensive line-ups and games played this season:

Trippier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Davies (Played 5 games together ) - W2, D0, L3, Cleansheet: 1
Trippier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 3 games together) - W2, D0, L1, Cleansheets: 1
Trippier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 3 games together) - W1, D1, L1, Cleansheets: 1
Trippier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 2 games together) - W1, D0, L1, Cleansheets: 0
Trippier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Rose (Played 2 game together) - W2, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 2
Trippier - Foyth - Alderweireld - Davies (Played 2 games together) - W2, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 2
Aurier - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheets: 0
Aurier - Foyth - Alderweireld - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Aurier - Foyth - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W0, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 0
Trippier - Foyth - Alderweireld - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Aurier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 1
Trippier - Alderweireld - Davies - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 1
KWP - Foyth - Alderweireld - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 1
Trippier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W0, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 0
Trippier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 0
Aurier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Trippier - Sanchez - Alderweireld - Vertonghen (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 1
Trippier - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Aurier - Foyth - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W0, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 0
KWP - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W0, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 0

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Could probably do with sticking with ONE defensive line-up this season.....

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In comparison, here our defensive line-ups and games played when we had the best defence in the league (16/17).

Walker - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 6 games together) - W3, D2, L1, Cleansheet: 3
Walker - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 6 games together) - W4, D1, L1, Cleansheet: 2
Walker - Dier - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 6 games together) - W4, D2, L0, Cleansheet: 2
Walker - Dier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 4 game together) - W4, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 2
Trippier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 4 games together) - W4, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 2
Walker - Dier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 2 games together) - W2, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 2
Walker - Dier - Alderweireld - Davies (Played 2 games together) - W1, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 1
Walker - Dier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 1
Walker - Dier - Wimmer - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W0, D1, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Walker - Dier - Vertonghen - Wimmer (Played 1 game together) - W0, D0, L1, Cleansheet: 0
Trippier - Dier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Walker - Dier - Alderweireld - Wimmer - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W0, D1, L0, Cleansheet: 0
Walker - Dier - Alderweireld - Rose (Played 1 game together) - W0, D1, L0, Cleansheet: 1
Trippier - Dier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 1
Sissoko - Dier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies (Played 1 game together) - W1, D0, L0, Cleansheet: 0

When checking this, barely ANY full back rotation at all unless players were injured or it came to the end of the season and Walker has decided he was going to leave so game time fluctuated between Walker and Trippier.

What I take away from that is why the FUCK have we wasted Dier's development in midfield when he was performing admirably at centre half!?
Good point. He's an average midfielder, at best. The stats would suggest he should be dropping into the back again.
 
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