Impressive break through season.... Shone vs Real Madrid....... England call up....... Bowed out towards the end of that season with the bad ankle and was never the same.
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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025
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Impressive break through season.... Shone vs Real Madrid....... England call up....... Bowed out towards the end of that season with the bad ankle and was never the same.
Justin Cochrane worked with Kobbie Mainoo as well as Garnacho, when he was Head of Player Development and Coaching at yanited.
We've all watched the players in matches, and can see the scouting data reports, but that first hand experience of Mainoo, Garnacho (& Wissa too) has to be an extra level of information / evidence when assessing a player's suitability for the famous Spurs.
Now we're in the second week of pre-season, Cochrane and Frank will be assessing our players against those they've worked with before.
They'll be able to judge Tel, Odobert, Richarlison, and what sadly appears to be an ageing Sonny, against the likes of Wissa and Garnacho.
They can compare Archie Gray, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr against Mainoo. Speculatively, I think if we sign Paulinha on loan for one season, it will be to build in space to develop Gray without him having to start every week.
The excerpt below is from a yanited source bemoaning Frank's poaching of Cochrane.
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It feels like a lifetime ago, but just about four years ago, United made a statement appointment for their academy by hiring Justin Cochrane as their head of player development in the academy.
Cochrane came as a highly-rated name in the coaching circles, and he was poached by Brentford just a year later, where he worked with Thomas Frank.
United’s FA Youth Cup-winning squad with Kobbie Mainoo and Alejandro Garnacho is a bona fide success story, and Cochrane’s impact on the youngsters can’t be ignored.
The report states: “Cochrane can take some credit for helping [Mbeumo] to become more clinical. Cochrane planned training sessions at Brentford. He would design drills around the tactical set-up of their next opponent or based on what skills he felt individuals needed to improve.
“Along with Frank, he mainly focused on the attacking unit. It was their duty to push Mbeumo, Wissa, and Schade to a higher level with regular finishing drills.”
Man Utd once employed the coach who unleashed Bryan Mbeumo at Brentford, he's now joined a rival
If we can get Mainoo I would do it. Surely their fans would revolt though?
I suspect he will stay if they sell Garnacho but he is on a relately low wage so if that happens I suspect he will sign a new contract. This window could be the only opportunity to get him at a decent price.
This is a horrible way to manage the squad btw
If we can't sell these players then what? They'll end up sitting on their contract collecting a cheque, sets a bad precedent unless we pay them off which again isn't ideal.
Hmm yeah can't think of any successful top teams with much more success than us who operate like this! Horrible.
I like 41% believe that.
I 59% believe Winks just lacked the mentality to kick on from his early successes.
Benefit of the doubt; YOU might have said it, but there's no truth to the suggestion that was the prevailing tone around any of those exits. Especially not from the kind of posters in question.
......The YOU kind by the looks of it.
(I didn't question what your individual opinion might have been at the time; so pls read properly and stop gaslighting ME please.)
Stick to the topic and don't slip into wanker-mode, there's a good chap.
The point is that if acting like that is a big club thing to do, why is it always the stick use to beat us with - that we "don't act like a big club" in every transfer related topic.
Buying Ndombele was a big club thing to do, and fucking the lazy nob off with a P45 was also a big club thing to do.
It feels like people talk about stuff like "we used to sign players like Gascoigne" with hindsight, because we've signed a lot of players who were pretty much the same profile as he was at the point we signed them, but that doesn't seem to count if they don't turn out the same (ignoring that it is unlikely Gazza would get have got as far in the modern professional game).
There's too much obsession with people trying to define what 'big clubs' do when a lot of it is just pure dumb luck and chance.
This quote was in relation to how many players we have numbers wise not cash available..
anyway, you'd think you'd be happy, you want to sell half our squad
In the clubs articles of association 300 Million worth of shares can be allocated up until 27 May 2027. It is probably where the twitter idiots have got that number from (for investment) and have got confused. They have already drawn down £135 million of it though so we have about £165m to spend and is probably about what ENIC will invest into the club this summer. The same way they've done it previously.
Prob did last summer when they spent zero..........
Think they will go down tbh. Leeds will just about survive imo. Mind you i do think farke might be gone by october.
Desperate for money, need to sell before they can buy and noone else appears in for him ( including us imo)
I imagine the bloke misspelled 'we'll see'.
But like, complaining about binning off bad players is not a mode of criticism just generally. Everyone likes doing that!
Yes, exactly!
If that's not strictly logical, well, logic is not the core feature of the big club mentality!
The honest truth is that the money and the success don't quite zero in on it.
Spurs have been bigger spenders than the competition and won more trophies in the pre-ENIC days, that's all true.
But the emotional reality of it is that Spurs of yore were ROMANTIC. To Dare Is To Do, echo of glory, all that stuff. That's the ethos of the club, that is what the badge means.
Part of it is just the fallen state of the modern game, no question about it, but even among his contemporaries, Levy and the method and ideology through which he operates the club is profoundly, relentlessly unromantic. It's what makes the little occasional exceptions like Davids and Van der Vaart and Bale's return stand out so much.
Probably "We'll see"...... Just that half of twitter can't articulate properly in writing.
I think it’s pretty clear that Richy is physically not up to it anymore and it’s pretty clear we want to bolster the squad with experienced PL players this summer - Kudus, MGW, Wissa and Paulinha. Tonnes of know how, physicality and nous, which we were missing last season.
But does he offer much different to Bergvall, Sarr, Gray? He’s a good player but he’s much like most of our other midfielders.