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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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JDefoe said:
Disagree, Saudi is crucial to the model.

They’ve made 5 and counting (likely 7 by window end) big money sales to Saudi. PIF and Clearlake have a very, very friendly business relationship and they understand Saudi is a key PSR source.

Liverpool are doing very similar things with the Nunez transfer and will do the same with Salah in the next couple years.

I’ve had Saudi clubs described to me as a “get out of jail free card” Chelsea know they can count on. This is just observable fact, not conspiracy.
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WILLINGNESS TO SELL PLAYERS is of course essential.

And sure, no doubt they have developed a working relationship with the Saudis, volume helps. Volume is their whole game.

At the current scale of their squad they can essentially credibly threaten to banish literally anyone in the team, which puts everybody in sight of the exit door, it's easy come, easy go.

But their transactions with the Saudis are arms length, and claims to the contrary are a bullshit that further cathedrals of bullshit are being built on top of in a lot of minds, and it drives me insane.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Huge gulf?

Not sure about that.

He probably will be better but it’s far from certain at 30, after a serious injury. Bayerns other DMs like Goretzka are anything but suited to Kompany so if he didn’t play over Goretzka, it’s not a great sign.



There’s no chance Palinha was the top option. He’s the one further down the list Levy looked at and thought “yup, I’ll get them that one after not really making a serious play for the top 2-3 and then tell them that I’ve given them what they asked for”.
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Yes huge gulf - led the prem in tackles v one that couldn’t score if his live depended on it and a defender with the pace and turning circle of a ferry!

Again - how do you know he wasn’t the top option? Prem proven and available. Who else have we been linked to as a 6?
 
MemphisWill said:
West Ham score 46 goals last season (we scored 64)....

Is signing 2 of their front 4 really improving us all that much?

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I'd be extremely surprised if West Ham let us have Paqueta.

I don't understand now that the charges have been cleared why he's suddenly available? surely now west ham get him back to his best without that hanging over him?
 
JDefoe said:
They’ve made 5 and counting (likely 7 by window end) big money sales to Saudi. PIF and Clearlake have a very, very friendly business relationship and they understand Saudi is a key PSR source.
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This is an understatement. The PIF is the souce of the majority of Clearlake's invested capital. Clearlake is essentially just a subsidiary of the PIF, just hired help. Boehley is just a beard.
 
Age said:
I get what you're saying but Kudus has already shown he'll be a good addition and Paqueta is better than what we've got. I wouldn't mind Bowen either. Don't know why they struggle to score but it seems to be a problem for Potter's teams going back to Brighton and Chelsea.
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It's not just a teams attack, it's what's behind them. How they play though the midfield and progress up the pitch, how they generally control games and how they defend as a team.

All these things affect how a sides attack function and ultimately how effective they are.

I've no doubt Kudus is going to be a huge signing for us, but you don't decide to not sign him because West Ham weren't prolific last season.

You look at certain players that have qualities your side lacks and could benefit from.

Its all part of building and balancing the team the manager envisages and watching it come to fruition.
 
FightingIllini said:
Given that there were links last year I think it's extremely possible he is the "top option" in the sense of Johan Lange saying "a year ago I liked this guy better than anyone we're looking at for a long-term acquisition, if he's available and has a clean bill of health, fuck it, I don't care what happened in Germany"
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He was 29 last year so surely wouldn’t have been a long term option then either?
 
dustybin said:
he is. We were absolutely hopeless retaining possession and creating chances last year when he was out. A lot of our fans seem to really underrate what he brings to a side
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It wasn't just retaining possession.

It is becoming clearer, game by game, this pre-season, that Ange and his tactics were the issue.

Players who looked clueless at defending last season are now making blocks and tackles.

The improvement all over the pitch is obvious.

We've just played two of the better Prem teams from last year and looked comfortable without Maddison.

We just need a new player.
 
latman said:
Think that's way too a simplistic extrapolation.

Many variables to consider.
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Age said:
I get what you're saying but Kudus has already shown he'll be a good addition and Paqueta is better than what we've got. I wouldn't mind Bowen either. Don't know why they struggle to score but it seems to be a problem for Potter's teams going back to Brighton and Chelsea.
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My biggest point is that people on this forum tend to always underrate our own players and overrate players for other clubs.

Yes, other factors are at play - but we're talking about clubs that play the same 18 other teams 36 times in a season. Its hard to rationalize that the team that scored 18 fewer goals has better attacking players.

Kudus is enough for me, I really don't want another of their caravan mob stinking up the joint.
 
MemphisWill said:
West Ham score 46 goals last season (we scored 64)....

Is signing 2 of their front 4 really improving us all that much?

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WestHam problem were 2 fold - They could not get the ball to their creative players in right places... And when they do, they didnt have striker option who were good enough to finish them. On top of it they were defensively woeful as well

Paqueta has 55 Brazil caps - Just on this alone, you know how highly he is thought in Brazil. Also personally , now out of the betting troubles means he can play more free.

I would rather take the risk on Paqueta than sign Grealish who has barely played in 3 seasons
 
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