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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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What if he doesn't want to ply abroad and wants to stay in England?
Then we sell for big money to wherever he wants to go, or if we have bridges the gap somehow we don’t sell and build a side around him.

Man City and Liverpool aren’t coming for him this summer - so his choice would seemingly be go to Spurs or stay at Palace - play CL or play Europa, earn more or earn less.

We’re not as unattractive as you seem to think we are
 
Who is throwing Gray on the scrap heap? What are we saying here, don’t sign a fantastic player as it might force Gray to up his game to get into his preferred position?

Gray could learn off Wharton for a couple of seasons before his big move to Bayern/Real/City. Or he could step up and displace him, or they could play together, or he ends up at RB. The club has to keep moving forwards
 
That is the difference between them and us right now though. We won't be spending 100m on any player any time soon.

I agree with you mate but if you say that obvious fact on here there are posters who will sidetrack the debate into the minutiae of every different financial detail of our transfer history under these owners.

Instead, let’s just agree that even for the kind of money we can spend, we should be targeting a frontline #6 instead of Norgaard who is a very solid PL CM on a mid table team to come in and provide depth. We have the depth in Bentancur or Bissouma depending on which one stays
 
Then we sell for big money to wherever he wants to go, or if we have bridges the gap somehow we don’t sell and build a side around him.

Man City and Liverpool aren’t coming for him this summer - so his choice would seemingly be go to Spurs or stay at Palace - play CL or play Europa, earn more or earn less.

We’re not as unattractive as you seem to think we are

But why does he want to this Summer? This is the point I'm trying to make - there's nothing suggesting that he wants out of Palace now, why can't he stay at Palace for another year or two then eventually leave and get to move to a team of his choice?

Also you know full well that we won't sell him for big money to wherever he wants, it's going to be a team abroad and that's only when he parts on our terms, Kane has to run his contract down to get a move and Bale refused to turn up for training, both sold for big money, Romero can't get out of his contract unless Atletico pay big - that's not even remotely attractive to any up and coming players who genuinely think they can use us as a stepping stone, not to mention that we don't pay particular well compared to others clubs he could potentially sign for.

I don't think we're an unattractive team to sign for by the way in the main, but when you weigh it up with the options he could potentially have on the table we aren't close to that at all.
 
Who is throwing Gray on the scrap heap? What are we saying here, don’t sign a fantastic player as it might force Gray to up his game to get into his preferred position?

Gray could learn off Wharton for a couple of seasons before his big move to Bayern/Real/City. Or he could step up and displace him, or they could play together, or he ends up at RB. The club has to keep moving forwards

What? 😆 😆

Gray needs mins, if Wharton signs then he'll likely take his mins, how the fek is he actually learning sitting on the bench lol

I am saying that there's 0 point in investing in a player like Gray, who, by the way was being talked up in the same breath as Wharton a year ago then buying Wharton who has now been given a platform at Palace to push on when we haven't really allowed Gray to flourish.

Gray will eventually grow into a good player who is likely to have a similar career trajectory given time.
 
What doesn’t make sense is the links to various wide forwards if the intention is to play 352. It could be that due to the lack of availability, he may switch to 352 and sign players best suited to this formation. Frank could however try and deploy a Pep system where he plays only one wing back with a wide forward in a wing back position on the other side.

Should be sign Eze, then a 352 would be the best way to factor both Eze and Maddison into the team. It will be interesting if the plan is to play 1 or 2 strikers.

He played 4-3-3 mostly last season.
 
I completely see what you're saying on the 'where he fits' sides of of things but there's a few other things to take into account here....

Frank is not managing brentford anymore. People like to call our player useless but the fact is that next season we will be back to being dominant over the majority of teams in the prem. We will almost certainly be back to trying to break teams down, finding a way through. Eze helps this massively. Dealing with maddison, eze, bergvall and porros in and around the box is going to be torture for teams to defend out.

If you see the way that brentford looked to play out from the back for goal kicks then adding eze is a dream for someone like frank. Essentially they setup in a 4 and 2 with the 2 cms close together centrally. Once played short there would be a series of short passes between them (plenty of numbers and passing lanes meaning opposition must commit players to try counter it) before springing a longer pass to damsgaard (or mbeuno) who would then recieve closer to the halfway line, hold onto it or recieve on the turn and then look to spring a 4 man attack after beating the opposition’s press. If we translate this to Tottenham then this gets supercharged with a blend of maddison, eze, johnson (in behind, finishing) and solanke (holdup and box finishing) . A 4 man attack consisting of those 4 from the halfway line is NOT what a team wants to face. You'd have 2 great supplier feeding the big man and man in behind (as johnson played for forrest) and if that fails and the attack is held up you have eze and maddison picking up the scraps.

I did make a post on formation In another thread a couple of days back. What I did was put together a team and what it would look like IN possession as though we were camped in another teams half attacking. I did recieve some criticism for it but I stand by that as being how I see our team shaping up so far as player roles and areas operating in. Porro held width high on the right, eze tucked in from the left and along with maddison they would supply solanke and johnson whilst picking up scraps themselves.

Against the big teams we really lack ball retention and control, it's like watching an u12's v men at times the way we cough it up. Eze sorts this greatly, those few extra seconds relieving pressure and picking that team mate out without panicking.

The only thing lacking in that team I posted was a dm, somebody like hjulmand would be perfect.

So to answer you question definitively hee would play as an inside left dropping off from the forward line. Very similar to mata and Silva played in there pomp.

Talking of hjulmand it's his birthday today like it is mine! Happy birthday!!
Franks Brentford in the championship where they had a competitive team is a much different beast to the pragmatic approach he took in the PL.

I wouldnt assume him wanting to do the same playing styles myself.
 
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