yeah probably true and MGW's career has been gradual progression while Mainoo burst onto the scene and was probably overrated for a period while MGW has been underrated for most his career. I think its balanced out now though
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i guess what i mean is we may need to keep our powder dry just in case we need a plan b big purchase in place mgw
"Tidy industrious midfielder who works really hard and doesn't make mistakes and breaks into senior football at a very early age with everyone marveling at their maturity beyond their years" is such a perennial player archetype.
And sometimes they're Declan Rice, and sometimes they're Harry Winks, and it feels like at age 20 there is absolutely no way to tell the difference.
Reported today that the Greek has indicated that MGW has gone back on his word.What does it take for MGW to make a stand?
Mainoo’s athletic profile is much more Winks than Rice unfortunately
Nothing that would be worth our while. He seems to be refusing to sell to us and doesnt seem the kind of chap to change his mind.
If he doesnt play for Man U, I doubt he even gets in the England squad.
God he’s still hanging around like a bad smell.
I actually think Winks could have made it but had all his best traits coached out of him under different managers. He was uniquely good on the ball for his age when he first broke on the scene and was almost elite at receiving the ball on the turn and playing through the lines. But we never really played possession based football under Mourinho, Nuno or Conte so the best part of his game was never really utilized and his confidence went and he never got it back.
I do think your environment is everything. If Busquets was born in England and dumped into the Championship at a young age, I think he'd have been eaten alive. Not enough legs for midfield and doesn't score, assist or make enough tackles! Even though his profile was unique and IQ were off the charts
Newcastle interested I’d imagine too
I'd guess he'd prefer us with Frank connection and staying in London etc
Must be Newcastle as it seems Wilson is heading to west ham.
I can't get even a tiny bit excited about the prospect of Wissa
better than tel thats for sure
I think i prefer the lack of rumors vs the current players we're being linked to
Some very jealous TFC posters after seeing this
What wouldn't they give to be that close to Daniel , breathe him in and have a picture to immortalise the moment
Justin Cochrane worked with Kobbie Mainoo as well as Garnacho, when he was Head of Player Development and Coaching at yanited.
We've all watched the players in matches, and can see the scouting data reports, but that first hand experience of Mainoo, Garnacho (& Wissa too) has to be an extra level of information / evidence when assessing a player's suitability for the famous Spurs.
Now we're in the second week of pre-season, Cochrane and Frank will be assessing our players against those they've worked with before.
They'll be able to judge Tel, Odobert, Richarlison, and what sadly appears to be an ageing Sonny, against the likes of Wissa and Garnacho.
They can compare Archie Gray, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr against Mainoo. Speculatively, I think if we sign Paulinha on loan for one season, it will be to build in space to develop Gray without him having to start every week.
The excerpt below is from a yanited source bemoaning Frank's poaching of Cochrane.
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It feels like a lifetime ago, but just about four years ago, United made a statement appointment for their academy by hiring Justin Cochrane as their head of player development in the academy.
Cochrane came as a highly-rated name in the coaching circles, and he was poached by Brentford just a year later, where he worked with Thomas Frank.
United’s FA Youth Cup-winning squad with Kobbie Mainoo and Alejandro Garnacho is a bona fide success story, and Cochrane’s impact on the youngsters can’t be ignored.
The report states: “Cochrane can take some credit for helping [Mbeumo] to become more clinical. Cochrane planned training sessions at Brentford. He would design drills around the tactical set-up of their next opponent or based on what skills he felt individuals needed to improve.
“Along with Frank, he mainly focused on the attacking unit. It was their duty to push Mbeumo, Wissa, and Schade to a higher level with regular finishing drills.”
Man Utd once employed the coach who unleashed Bryan Mbeumo at Brentford, he's now joined a rival
We've all watched the players in matches, and can see the scouting data reports, but that first hand experience of Mainoo, Garnacho (& Wissa too) has to be an extra level of information / evidence when assessing a player's suitability for the famous Spurs.
Now we're in the second week of pre-season, Cochrane and Frank will be assessing our players against those they've worked with before.
They'll be able to judge Tel, Odobert, Richarlison, and what sadly appears to be an ageing Sonny, against the likes of Wissa and Garnacho.
They can compare Archie Gray, Bentancur, Bissouma, Sarr against Mainoo. Speculatively, I think if we sign Paulinha on loan for one season, it will be to build in space to develop Gray without him having to start every week.
The excerpt below is from a yanited source bemoaning Frank's poaching of Cochrane.
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It feels like a lifetime ago, but just about four years ago, United made a statement appointment for their academy by hiring Justin Cochrane as their head of player development in the academy.
Cochrane came as a highly-rated name in the coaching circles, and he was poached by Brentford just a year later, where he worked with Thomas Frank.
United’s FA Youth Cup-winning squad with Kobbie Mainoo and Alejandro Garnacho is a bona fide success story, and Cochrane’s impact on the youngsters can’t be ignored.
The report states: “Cochrane can take some credit for helping [Mbeumo] to become more clinical. Cochrane planned training sessions at Brentford. He would design drills around the tactical set-up of their next opponent or based on what skills he felt individuals needed to improve.
“Along with Frank, he mainly focused on the attacking unit. It was their duty to push Mbeumo, Wissa, and Schade to a higher level with regular finishing drills.”
Man Utd once employed the coach who unleashed Bryan Mbeumo at Brentford, he's now joined a rival
Mind you, if he has left and travelled back then, maybe a deal has been agreed with someone most likely Newcastle.