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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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_mehstg said:
Sorry I disagree with your assertion that I don't understand how these things work. Accounting for legal purposes because your a PLC and accounting for PSR are two totally different things.

I've forgotten more about the NFL they you probably know. The salary cap is a tool to ensure fairness. It's nothing to do with P&L, accounts, financial statements etc. (similar to PSR). EVERY season, EVERY team has dead cap. Money they have to include in their salary cap for players who are no longer at the club. Go look it up.

Finally, ask yourself, why would any club put a player on 8, 9, 10 year contract if it wasn't benefiting them somehow...
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As I said I don’t know about salary caps in any American sports, but I would be surprised if you had to include players no longer at your club (but playing for another team) within your cap, as it doesn’t make logical sense (possibly unamortized signing on fee ?, you could just about make a case for, if indeed they are split over length of contract)

I do however know a significant amount in respect of Football and its finances, and your suggestion that teams are still depreciating players they have long since sold for either PSR, GAAP or IAS, is frankly hilarious.

Why would they tie players down to long contracts ? purely to commit a young player to their club, and usually on lower wages,
Benefit for player, guaranteed long term future income, benefit for club, player they have on reasonable wages that they hope will improve significantly in value, but also due to length of contract very difficult for a team to poach and can increase price of player when selling (take Jackson, bought for 32m wanting 80-100m, a lot of that will be down to contract length) Downside to club is if player bombs or injured, they are still stuck with player they are committed to paying.
 
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If we have money for Rodrigo but fuck all chance of making it happen then we should should look back again at Leao or Semenyo. Having a top draw ball carrier and dribbler on the left and then Kudus on the right will mean we can break low blocks down easier but also be decent on counters.
 
Tomo said:
If we have money for Rodrigo but fuck all chance of making it happen then we should should look back again at Leao or Semenyo. Having a top draw ball carrier and dribbler on the left and then Kudus on the right will mean we can break low blocks down easier but also be decent on counters.
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Semenyo signed a new deal a few weeks ago.
 
Tomo said:
If we have money for Rodrigo but fuck all chance of making it happen then we should should look back again at Leao or Semenyo. Having a top draw ball carrier and dribbler on the left and then Kudus on the right will mean we can break low blocks down easier but also be decent on counters.
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I don't think we are in for or will ever be in for a player like Rodrygo... he's on 250k per week and doubt he is interested in taking a pay cut. Great shout on Leao though. Would love him but even though he has expressed a desire to leave, Milan are under no financial pressure to sell. His release clause is a stupid figure but we might be able to get him for 65-70. I just don't see it. Semenyo is more likely but I would be super nervous paying big money for him. He has massive bust potential.
 
_mehstg said:
He has massive bust potential.
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yes said:
Agreed. Players like this go to elite clubs. We are not an elite club.

Levy can get the media team to post as many staged interviews of him talking about how much he wants us to win silverware as he wants. But we all know that his goal is for us to be in and around the Top 4 and the money/exposure being in the Champions League brings.

If he actually wanted us to win silverware, we'd have signed several top quality players this transfer window and axed half the squad.

The sooner people accept that we're B-list, the better.
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Point is we don’t have to be. Massive multi purpose stadium, big fanbase (as shown by the EL win celebrations), great infrastructure. What we basically lack is what almost every other club in the league has and that includes the likes of Brighton and that is a bit of investment.

We are a B list team but in the way a A list student is being lazy and gets a B. The frustration is we could clearly do a lot more, be in a combination of shares to bring in new investors plus others bits on top like stadium sponsorship. All of this keeps getting rumoured to happen but until it does we are here.
 
Trotter said:
As I said I don’t know about salary caps in any American sports, but I would be surprised if you had to include players no longer at your club (but playing for another team) within your cap, as it doesn’t make logical sense (possibly unamortized signing on fee ?, you could just about make a case for)

I do however know a significant amount in respect of Football and its finances.

Why would they tie players down to long contracts ? purely to commit a young player to their club, and usually on lower wages,
Benefit for player, guaranteed long term future income, benefit for club, player they have on reasonable wages that they hope will improve significantly in value, but also due to length of contract very difficult for a team to poach and can increase price of player when selling (take Jackson, bought for 32m wanting 80-100m, a lot of that will be down to contract length) Downside to club is if player bombs or injured, they are still stuck with player they are committed to paying.
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In American professional sports—especially the NFL (National Football League) and NBA (National Basketball Association)—player contracts often include guaranteed money, which significantly affects how teams manage trades, salary caps, and long-term planning.​


Let’s say Player X signs a 5-year contract worth $50 million, with $25 million guaranteed. This guaranteed portion is what the player is entitled to receive no matter what—whether they’re cut, traded, or injured.

Now, if Player X is traded in Year 3, two key scenarios can unfold depending on how the contract was structured:

1. Backloaded Contracts: More Money in Later Years​

Contracts are often backloaded, meaning the player earns a smaller portion of the guaranteed money in the early years and a larger portion in the later years. This is a common strategy used by teams to manage short-term salary cap space.

Example:​

  • Year 1: $3M
  • Year 2: $4M
  • Year 3: $6M
  • Year 4: $6M
  • Year 5: $6M
    Total: $25M guaranteed
If the player is traded after Year 2, they’ve only received $7M of the guaranteed $25M. That leaves $18M still owed, which leads to the next scenario.

2. Who Pays the Remaining Guaranteed Money?​

This depends heavily on the league rules and contract terms:

NFL (National Football League)​

  • Signing Bonuses: These are typically paid upfront but prorated over the life of the contract for salary cap purposes. If a player is traded, the original team absorbs the remaining prorated bonus as a "dead cap" hit.
  • Base Salary: The new team usually takes on the remaining base salary unless the trade agreement includes financial offsets.
  • Dead Cap: This is the cap space taken up by a player no longer on the roster due to guaranteed money. It can significantly impact a team’s financial flexibility.

NBA (National Basketball Association)​

  • Fully Guaranteed Contracts: Most NBA contracts are fully guaranteed. When a player is traded, the new team assumes the entire contract, including all guaranteed money.
  • Exceptions: Some contracts include partial guarantees or team/player options, but these are negotiated case by case.
 
Gmspurs said:
Just more bullshit 'leaked by someone' to make the fans think that the management are actually trying to sign quality players.


Heard it all before, Hulk, Couthino, Leandro, Dybala, Rivaldo.



It's beyond laughable that they think the fan base will fall for it again. But large portions do.
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It’s come from a major source though so it’s either Levy chancing his luck or Real just trying to drive up the price by throwing our name out there but either way it’s something happened but not in a million years do I think Rodrigo is coming to us. If it is the club chancing its arm then clearly we must have some money to spend which I hope they use elsewhere.
 
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