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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Surely you understand that 99% of that crap is - at best - lazy tabloid rubbish or - at worst - vapid social media click farming from utter no-marks..... None it worthy of being even vaguely deemed 'journalism'.


I mean; it's understandable being frustrated with our lack of trfs, but ffs don't let that nonsense push your buttons.



You can google 'Newnsnow [insert any club name]' and find reams of the same shit about any club.
Newsnow and “tabloid rubbish” is one thing, of course you can apply them to any club.
But the reality is reputable journalists who have legit information also use that type of language when discussing our transfer efforts as well.

To try and argue we aren’t far more reactive as opposed to pro active, ponderous and downright incompetent in the market than other clubs of similar stature to us simply doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny anymore, no matter how much you try and continually brush the notion off.
 
Newsnow and “tabloid rubbish” is one thing, of course you can apply them to any club.
But the reality is reputable journalists who have legit information also use that type of language when discussing our transfer efforts as well.

To try and argue we aren’t far more reactive as opposed to pro active, ponderous and downright incompetent in the market than other clubs of similar stature to us simply doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny anymore, no matter how much you try and continually brush the notion off.
If that were true, we must have not spent much these past few years?
 

View: https://x.com/indykaila/status/1954171334906274130?s=46

Uh oh the second tier transfer gimps are fighting over the El Khannouss link. Don’t know whose side I’m on but I do know one thing…

Bilal El Khannouss


Jacobs getting exposed by faceless transfer accounts

Cracking Up Lol GIF
 
Not really, for me. Im not embarrassed by what the board does. I am by what other fans do because thats who I get associated with.

The manager and the group of players he has deserve to be given the opportunity to show what they have got before a group of idiots go protest and let them know they don't think they are good enough before they've even seen them play a competitive match .

Good post. A different perspective.

I think your post is entirely valid except for 3 big reasons as I see them.

Much as it was clear Postecoglou just wasn't up to the job, 17th isn't just down to a manager and his coaching team.

Secondly, I think Frank would want 2 or 3 players who kind of came in with him. Just implies a certain bond and those he can get answers from re: murmurs within the squad, etc. I think its also a display of being backed by the people who employed you.

Fans thrive and live off the buzz of new signings. It adds volume and belief, especially when they are considered high grade.

If Frank cane out straightaway and as soon as he signed and said I dont want new players because I want to give th current squad 4 months to assess them, and will only seek to replace first-teamers who leave - fine.

I like the gist of your post. I think the risks would be there for many to see.
 
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Surely you understand that 99% of that crap is - at best - lazy tabloid rubbish or - at worst - vapid social media click farming from utter no-marks..... None it worthy of being even vaguely deemed 'journalism'.


I mean; it's understandable being frustrated with our lack of trfs, but ffs don't let that garbage push your buttons.



You can google 'Newnsnow [insert any club name]' and find reams of the same shit about any club.
I don’t actually think that the club are releasing statements to the press using those words.

But they’ve being doing one of two things. Either “nothing”, as they’re content with what we’ve got or “discussing“. Because they certainly haven't been signing them.

The league starts a week today, there are giant holes in our squad and players that should have been moved on. We had months to plan the window and despite Kudus coming in, I honestly can’t see how our squad is in better state than it was at the end of last season.

Maddison is now out for the season (presumably), the fact that we were close to MGW proves that the club felt like we needed strengthening in that position. And now that Maddison is out, surely that is even more the case. Yet, here we are, a week to the day before the season starts and nothing?
 
Two things can be small time mate.

We have improved in a couple of areas and need to improve in a few more. We haven't done so yet and rather than at least wait till the end of the window these clowns are talking about protesting... not even giving the manager and players a chance to show what they can do in a competitive match.

Embarrassing.
Can't say as I'll be protesting myself, but I don't agree it's 'small time'; and if others want to express their frustrations through protest, more power to them.

But I find your take on where we're at right now extraordinarily relaxed and I'm not sure if it's deliberately that way as a counterbalance to what you see as an overreaction by others, or whether you genuinely are that calm. If it's the latter, I struggle to see what you're seeing that I'm missing.

I'm not sure, for example, that we really have 'improved in a couple of areas', at least, not in net terms. Yes, we've added Kudus and he looks like he's going to shine for us. But it's a bit like repairing garden fences during a storm; we can repair one and claim a 'win', meanwhile others are being uprooted and we have fewer fence panels than ever before.

The Europa Cup win has, I think, muddied our thinking about where we're really at. It's too easy to see our 17th place in the league as an aberration having won the EC, but the truth is, our league form has, for a season and a half been woeful, and the 'saving ourselves for the cup' argument really doesn't wash. The teams we have been competing against at the top end of the table for the past decade have all pushed on and it's hard to make any sort of argument that we have done anything to close that gap.

We have a relatively poor record when it comes to conducting business in the transfer window. Yes, we spend (some might argue not enough, but we do spend), but we do not make consistently good decisions, and our guiding principles seem to be opportunism over need. Whilst I do take your point that we can only really judge the situation once the window has ended and we've seen how the team performs in competition, it feels like a recycled promise of 'jam tomorrow' that is destined to be repeated in January and again next summer.

Jam tomorrow can work as a message if you're recent performances can be framed in the context of a glitch; when it's a pattern, it rings hollow.
 
I don’t actually think that the club are releasing statements to the press using those words.

So why pay them any mind and let them under your skin?

But they’ve being doing one of two things. Either “nothing”, as they’re content with what we’ve got or “discussing“. Because they certainly haven't been signing them.

The league starts a week today, there are giant holes in our squad and players that should have been moved on. We had months to plan the window and despite Kudus coming in, I honestly can’t see how our squad is in better state than it was at the end of last season.

Maddison is now out for the season (presumably), the fact that we were close to MGW proves that the club felt like we needed strengthening in that position. And now that Maddison is out, surely that is even more the case. Yet, here we are, a week to the day before the season starts and nothing?

Like I already said: "it's understandable being frustrated with our lack of trfs"
 
I've come to find out that goals are just stats, but is the table just stats too?

Because this is patently false.

In the 25 seasons from 1960-85 we finished in the top 10 in the league 16 times, top 5 9 times.

In the 25 seasons under ENIC we've finished in the top 10 20 times, top 5 13 times.

Posted elsewhere including on the cups - our cup progression was slightly better in 60-85, but mostly the difference is we've bottled finals and semifinals under ENIC.


Anyway, I love the sentiment of your post. But I think the glasses are quite rosy. And you even admit there was no tv or money in football at that time - you're pining for a sport that doesn't exist anymore. Football was more egalitarian then, now its all about money - ENIC specifically doesn't control that, and replacing them won't either.
Football and footballers were different then. The premier league and champions league created the dominance of a top 4. Before, it was just Liverpool who dominated, and mainly during the 70s. Everyone else were rather up and down. Teams like Derby, Ipswich, Villa could, and did take the league. Most teams had a few stars; we had lots, so every season there was a strong possibility. In hindsight, if we had more steel at the back, to complement our attacking force, we would have had a better chance.

I've also only got stats from 60 to 80, and we were relegated in the 70s! But from what I've been told by the older generation, we played beautiful football. From 81 to 87 we were a force, every season. It never went to plan though, but you would enjoy the game. If I compare that to the ENIC period, I'd say the period under Redknapp and Pochettino would be comparable, but it never really felt like we could win and dominate the league under either. The top four teams had better resources.

That period under Pochettino, when the top four were in a rebuilding phase, was our best shot. And did we almost make the most of it! But, having failed, you knew it was just a matter of time when the top teams would blow us out of the water again.

That, I think is the big difference between the two periods, the level of expectation. I mean no disrespect to anyone, but we talk as though being in the top 4 is something, but that is what football is in the modern era. In the 80s we expected to win, and we had an brilliant and highly competitive team that didn't get over the line. We were building up to that under Poch, but I don't think we ever got there, not really.

But it has to be said that modern football is different. It's all about money, and ensuring that those on top stay on top. I mean, that's all that FFS and FSR is all about. So perhaps our expectations are aligned to our place in that hierarchy.
 
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