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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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Darnswim 🇦🇱 said:
Funnily enough, just had a quick look on KUMB, and they do fancy Bissouma quite a lot. Knowing how the Bald Cunt operates, Solomon + Bissouma for Paqueta doesn’t look as unlikely.
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Everyone said Frank burned Bissouma's transfer value by going public with the disciplinary issues, but I'm not sure that's right. A club that has confidence in his culture will look at a situation like that and say "if we can get this guy's head screwed on straight, we can pull the good side of his inconsistent form".

Is West Ham that club? Fuck no, but he did excel under Potter.
 
FightingIllini said:
Part of the problem is the way it's considered cool and savvy on the internet to sort of pantomime and cosplay as an all-knowing chairman and businessperson rather than embody oneself AS A FAN.

If we don't do it, no one else is going to voice our perspective for us.
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The rise of social media has created a division between two types.

On one side, there are the sensible supporters who will speak with each other, try to listen and learn, seek information to support their arguments, and aren't afraid of knowledge. They've always been around. And they're by no means uncritical.

Then there are those who inhabit the hysterical, attention-seeking, shouty, screamy, sweary parts of social media. They want to inhabit echo chambers in which information and knowledge are irrelevant except when it confirms prejudice. They don't want to appreciate what true criticism means.

From what I've seen, the THST falls into the first category, while Change for Tottenham straddles both categories. I like CfT's activism, but, sadly, social media hysteria seems to be excluding the more knowledgeable members.

I believe good activism should arm itself with reliable information and knowledge, and it must be prepared to be self-critical. There's too little of this in the protests and I wish there was more.

Case example: the failed bid for Eze. A sifting of facts see this as Parish shenanigans plus the wishes of the player. We could have reacted with dignity, say that we tried our best (not a "narrative" but a fact), and then we move on.

Instead a vocal minority of the fans on all kinds of social media, X, TikTok, FB, etc., screamed blue murder, betrayal, catastrophe, abject failure, etc. Those inclined to do so followed a crazy-paved path of least resistance and incorporated into their "narrative" that this was ALL Levy's fault, sometimes straying into conspiratorial rabbit holes where he somehow did all this deliberately... Insanity.

Now, here's the thing. Gooners are laughing at us more because of the hysterical over-reaction. Those who are shocked, deeply shamed and humiliated have *done it to themselves*... We fell into a trap fashioned by ourselves...

This actually has the effect of *inhibiting* genuine criticism of Levy/ENIC...
 
What I don’t get is how we went from wanting both Savinho and Eze, plus a hybrid CB/LB to:

- if we overspend on Savinho it will mean less funds for Eze, to
- Eze off the table, CB/LB a myth and Savinho too expensive

Why the hell can’t we now take the circa £60m saved on Eze and put it towards Savinho and/or BEK?

It’s like the club can’t claim to have the funds for both but then refuse to pay the going rate for just one of them, instead signing no one. It’s either a PR masterclass to say we tried, or sheer incompetence by Levy and the recruitment team.
 
Pedders81 said:
What I don’t get is how we went from wanting both Savinho and Eze, plus a hybrid CB/LB to:

- if we overspend on Savinho it will mean less funds for Eze, to
- Eze off the table, CB/LB a myth and Savinho too expensive

Why the hell can’t we now take the circa £60m saved on Eze and put it towards Savinho and/or BEK?

It’s like the club can’t claim to have the funds for both but then refuse to pay the going rate for just one of them, instead signing no one. It’s either a PR masterclass to say we tried, or sheer incompetence by Levy and the recruitment team.
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I don't think that's an accurate statement of the situation, is the thing.

I think City have told us Savinho is not for sale.
 
Play Up Spurs!!!! said:
The rise of social media has created a division between two types.

On one side, there are the sensible supporters who will speak with each other, try to listen and learn, seek information to support their arguments, and aren't afraid of knowledge. They've always been around. And they're by no means uncritical.

Then there are those who inhabit the hysterical, attention-seeking, shouty, screamy, sweary parts of social media. They want to inhabit echo chambers in which information and knowledge are irrelevant except when it confirms prejudice. They don't want to appreciate what true criticism means.

From what I've seen, the THST falls into the first category, while Change for Tottenham straddles both categories. I like CfT's activism, but, sadly, social media hysteria seems to be excluding the more knowledgeable members.

I believe good activism should arm itself with reliable information and knowledge, and it must be prepared to be self-critical. There's too little of this in the protests and I wish there was more.

Case example: the failed bid for Eze. A sifting of facts see this as Parish shenanigans plus the wishes of the player. We could have reacted with dignity, say that we tried our best (not a "narrative" but a fact), and then we move on.

Instead a vocal minority of the fans on all kinds of social media, X, TikTok, FB, etc., screamed blue murder, betrayal, catastrophe, abject failure, etc. Those inclined to do so followed a crazy-paved path of least resistance and incorporated into their "narrative" that this was ALL Levy's fault, sometimes straying into conspiratorial rabbit holes where he somehow did all this deliberately... Insanity.

Now, here's the thing. Gooners are laughing at us more because of the hysterical over-reaction. Those who are shocked, deeply shamed and humiliated have *done it to themselves*... We fell into a trap fashioned by ourselves...

This actually has the effect of *inhibiting* genuine criticism of Levy/ENIC...
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Interesting. Not sure it's just social media, but do agree that for too many, anything that enables criticism of Levy is jumped on, woth more relish than the actual enthusiasm that might be expected to follow a significant signing.
 
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Pedders81 said:
What I don’t get is how we went from wanting both Savinho and Eze, plus a hybrid CB/LB to:

- if we overspend on Savinho it will mean less funds for Eze, to
- Eze off the table, CB/LB a myth and Savinho too expensive

Why the hell can’t we now take the circa £60m saved on Eze and put it towards Savinho and/or BEK?

It’s like the club can’t claim to have the funds for both but then refuse to pay the going rate for just one of them, instead signing no one. It’s either a PR masterclass to say we tried, or sheer incompetence by Levy and the recruitment team.
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Because El Khannous is utter shit. I swear to fucking god if we sign El Khannous I’ll have a bigger meltdown than bus-conductor bus-conductor ever had watching Sissoko.
 
I know its foolish but I do still think we will get savinho. They had meetings, nothings been shot down and I think he is undisputed no1 target this summer.

As I said, foolish i know.
 
FightingIllini said:
Retired at age 54, absolute French king

The thing with Santini was that he thought he was brought in to have the influence over transfer business that he'd had at Lyon, but when it was clear that wasn't his role he walked away.

How that communication wasn't clearer beforehand is beyond me, but whatever.

The only manager ever employed by Daniel Levy that wasn't sacked.
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He said himself it was as much his own fault he took the job as anyone else's.

That was the first time Levy tried to implement the continental setup where you have a coach employed to utilise players they didn't specify. It's supposed to bring continuity when coaches come and go, which has happened in the football world.

It worked with Arneson and Jol nicely for a few years. Then Arneson jumped ship and Comolli didn't work with Jol and Ramos was wank.

Levy had to pull back when he got Redknapp as there's no way he'd have worked in that system.
 
Darnswim 🇦🇱 said:
Darnswim 🇦🇱 said:
They're contenders for me.
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Pound for pound, they have the best midfield in the Premier League. They are just kneecapped because they have a shit manager, who's even worse than Legohead. Any competent manager in that Chelsea dugout (Tuchel) and they would've been the biggest contenders to win the bloody title.
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Ergo; it's a lot more complicated and nuanced than "spend massive".

Darnswim 🇦🇱 said:
As for Liverpool, they did in fact spend massively. Because they didn't just spend on VVD and Allisson in 2018. They also bought Fabinho and Keita for big money. The summer after they didn't spend (they were complete), but them in 2020 Jota and Alcantara arrived to boost that midfield. Season after? Diaz and Konate. After that? Nunez and Gakpo. They have kept improving (or trying to improve) their squad for years now. Notice how I mention only one or 2 players. That's because they spend big on "known quality" instead of our approach of "we'll buy 5 ok players HOPING they turn out good".
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(We're way off topic now; but check the net spends until this season.... Until this summer; we'd outspent their "massive" spending over a number of years.)

Which concurs with what I said....... They just spent it better.... Much better.

....And that's despite Kieta, Nunez & Ox-Chamberlain (amongst their more expensive signings in the Klopp years) all being duds.

Darnswim 🇦🇱 said:
It's embarrassing how we've big acting in the market for decades now.
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Not really sure what that constitutes..... It seems to fly in the face of the criticism that "we don't act like a big club".

...But 5 years ago we hadn't even begun to have vaguely comparative revenue levels anyway.




Again; I'm far more concerned with what we do; than the scum up the road.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
I never said Santini was better than Jol or was any good , I said he he felt he was lied to and walked . I think he blamed personal issues initially, then said something about broken promises at a later date .
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There was clearly a lot more going on with him just based on the fact he was done from that point on.

Even Juande Ramos went on for 9-10 years after being absolutely awful for us.
 
I think vuskovic isn't going anywhere on loan unless we get someone else in so that could have all changed today. As for the rest it's utter diabolical u can see the city deal is never going to happen either he will sign a new contract or end up somewhere else probably a swap with real Madrid
 
Pedders81 said:
What I don’t get is how we went from wanting both Savinho and Eze, plus a hybrid CB/LB to:

- if we overspend on Savinho it will mean less funds for Eze, to
- Eze off the table, CB/LB a myth and Savinho too expensive

Why the hell can’t we now take the circa £60m saved on Eze and put it towards Savinho and/or BEK?

It’s like the club can’t claim to have the funds for both but then refuse to pay the going rate for just one of them, instead signing no one. It’s either a PR masterclass to say we tried, or sheer incompetence by Levy and the recruitment team.
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You are reading and believing reports.
 
We’re getting knock-backs everywhere at the moment, and it feels like we’ll end up signing someone just for the sake of it, more to keep fans quiet than to actually improve the team. The worry is it’ll be another player who doesn’t really fit, fails to make an impact, and just adds to the bloated squad we’ll struggle to shift later on.
 
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