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Transfers The Summer Transfer Edging Thread 2025

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If it wasn't clear already, we are absolutely, magnificently, fucked. Unforgivable state of affairs. Our response to finishing 17th and losing Son and Madders (plus Kulu for most of the season) is to make two first team signings. A small (but not actual) part of me wishes we hadn't won these first two games, as there would be no place to hide. But hide they will.
 
Ed Vanderlay said:
Be funny if we bid for Rogers and Villa accepted it

Levy walking in to conclude the deal

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Play Up Spurs!!!! said:
The rise of social media has created a division between two types.

On one side, there are the sensible supporters who will speak with each other, try to listen and learn, seek information to support their arguments, and aren't afraid of knowledge. They've always been around. And they're by no means uncritical.

Then there are those who inhabit the hysterical, attention-seeking, shouty, screamy, sweary parts of social media. They want to inhabit echo chambers in which information and knowledge are irrelevant except when it confirms prejudice. They don't want to appreciate what true criticism means.

From what I've seen, the THST falls into the first category, while Change for Tottenham straddles both categories. I like CfT's activism, but, sadly, social media hysteria seems to be excluding the more knowledgeable members.

I believe good activism should arm itself with reliable information and knowledge, and it must be prepared to be self-critical. There's too little of this in the protests and I wish there was more.

Case example: the failed bid for Eze. A sifting of facts see this as Parish shenanigans plus the wishes of the player. We could have reacted with dignity, say that we tried our best (not a "narrative" but a fact), and then we move on.

Instead a vocal minority of the fans on all kinds of social media, X, TikTok, FB, etc., screamed blue murder, betrayal, catastrophe, abject failure, etc. Those inclined to do so followed a crazy-paved path of least resistance and incorporated into their "narrative" that this was ALL Levy's fault, sometimes straying into conspiratorial rabbit holes where he somehow did all this deliberately... Insanity.

Now, here's the thing. Gooners are laughing at us more because of the hysterical over-reaction. Those who are shocked, deeply shamed and humiliated have *done it to themselves*... We fell into a trap fashioned by ourselves...

This actually has the effect of *inhibiting* genuine criticism of Levy/ENIC...
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Did we actually try our best? The fee for Eze ended up very close to the release clause, as most anyone would have anticipated. Our best would have been to have triggered it and brought the issue quickly to a conclusion. Instead, negotiations dragged on because Spurs management didn't want like the terms of the release clause and chanced losing the player by waiting. Either Levy meant what he said about competiting for championships or he didn't. That's not internet hyperbole to say the way the Eze transfer was conducted suggests it was empty rhetoric.
 
Dudski said:
Did we actually try our best? The fee for Eze ended up very close to the release clause, as most anyone would have anticipated. Our best would have been to have triggered it and brought the issue quickly to a conclusion. Instead, negotiations dragged on because Spurs management didn't want like the terms of the release clause and chanced losing the player by waiting. Either Levy meant what he said about competiting for championships or he didn't. That's not internet hyperbole to say the way the Eze transfer was conducted suggests it was empty rhetoric.
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It is always empty rhetoric with Levy. We could have spent this summer but Levy likes to haggle and it makes us penny wise but pound stupid. We miss out on millions in commercial deals especially since he locked us in long term deals with AIA and Nike.
 
Harrier said:
It’s a sod off price.

The price is similar to the fees United paid for Cunha and Mbeumo, both of which have done far, far more in the prem than Savinho.
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It's a we don't want to sell him, so if you want him, this is the number. They clearly don't want to lose him which is an indicator of a good player there.

It's not our money, not sure why everyone cares. We spent £65m on one of the most average strikers in the league but the same for this guy is too much. Don't get it.
 
Dudski said:
Did we actually try our best? The fee for Eze ended up very close to the release clause, as most anyone would have anticipated. Our best would have been to have triggered it and brought the issue quickly to a conclusion. Instead, negotiations dragged on because Spurs management didn't want like the terms of the release clause and chanced losing the player by waiting. Either Levy meant what he said about competiting for championships or he didn't. That's not internet hyperbole to say the way the Eze transfer was conducted suggests it was empty rhetoric.
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The release clause expired with the first game of the season. Neither Spurs nor Woolwich were prepared to trigger it, partly because of the whole fee, partly because of how much was demanded up front.

I can't see this as justifying the hysteria.
 
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