I think it's smart move by Oxford.....shame we don't have the same intelligence with how we operate in the transfer market
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Transfers The Winter Transfer Thread - 25/26
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I think it's smart move by Oxford.....shame we don't have the same intelligence with how we operate in the transfer market
Another young lad never given a chance.
We could seriously tempt Leipzig by telling them if they sell him to us we won’t let Richarlison join them.
It's mad how our fans think playing friendlies on training pitches translates to premier league levels.
Given Oxford’s position and transfer history, that’s a really high bar unless they can move him on immediately. My worry would be someone else in the Champo who can afford him — Ryan Reynolds, are you listening? — takes a shine to him and Oxford look for a quick buck. Hopefully, more details of the loan to come out.
Donley has been overhyped from day dot. He’s got a lovely left foot but the mobility of my nan. He will only fit into a team even at Championship level if the manager is happy to let him be the playmaker and offer nothing else on or off the ball.
Oh no - lack of mobility!! Ffs let’s get some footballers
Unfortunately being mobile in high level football is a pretty big deal.
I suspect there might be a sell on and/or first option included if all sides are still on good terms.
Sadly that seems to be the way football is going athlete first football skills 2nd and who can argue after such entertaining matches as last night
We're also the club that chased around Nico Paz all summer where there was never an indication he'd even consider joining....
For a pass to make sense, it's not sufficient for it to be available is it?
It must also be offering the potential recipient a clear option in the form of a shot, a pass, a cross or whatever. Otherwise it's pointless at best, detrimental at worst.
What I mean will become more clear soon hopefully.
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There's a pass here, but what's the point? Palhinha is looking straight at VDV, and doesn't seem like he has any intention other than passing it straight back in case he gets it.
Bentancur knows too: See his left arm pointing at Romero's direction.
I don't think the pass to Bentancur, illustrated with red dotted arrow, is on.
The pass to Palhinha is on obviously; but again, what's the point? He's already pointing at VDV as an indication of his intentions in case he gets the ball.
The pass is on to both players here, but they're both being watched closely. And they're hardly the type that will receive the ball in a tight area, pull a sharp half turn to shake off the defender(s) before creating himself the opening to burst forward with the ball or make a forward pass .That's where the inadequate player profile becomes a serious hindrance.
To make matters worse, since spacing is so bad, as soon as one gets the ball the two Brentford players could double team him without worrying about the other guy. Recipe for disaster knowing the said player profile.
Even the commentator felt compelled to mention how ridiculously close they were standing.
I deliberately widened the screenshot to the fullest to make a few points here:
-Look at all that space. Illustrates the essentiality of having a good ball carrier / passer that can get his team out of these high press situations on a regular basis. We don't need 10 signings to sort this mess out: Even a progressive passer or two would do a world of difference.
-The pass to Bentancur that was there momentarily is no longer on. Brentford's #27 has anticipated it. Besides, what I said above regarding the rubbish spacing indicates that Bentancur would've most likely gotten blindsided by Brentford's #6 even if it was on.
-The pass to Palhinha is on, but #6 is also in a good spot to harrass him in case the former gets the ball. Would you fancy Palhinha in such a battle against any midfielder in the league where he had to be the creator instead of the disruptor? I wouldn't.
Pass the ball in these situations to a player with Palhinha's skillset, and watch it go back to the keeper in no time in the outlined fashion. That's what Porro eventually decided to do himself.
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My takeaways:- Watching these two play together for a good few months, I'm reasonably confident that they have little interest in actually getting the ball in those situations: They act more as decoys to drag the opposing midfielders further up the pitch, presumably to create opportunities for long balls to frontline players where they could be isolated with their individual defenders .
- As hinted already, Frank is fully enabling this. That's part of his plan to bypass the midfield to presumably minimize the turnovers inside our own half. I jested that I wouldn't put it past Frank to turn Wharton of all people to a sideways-backwards specialist; but the more probable outcome would be for him to turn even the best deep playmaker to a passenger instead.
- Like I said, this issue goes way deeper than these two midfielders .It's been there for quite some time. It also drove Ange to a point of desparation where he, to obtain that deep playmaking / ball carrying from somewhere, felt compelled to field kamikaze midfield trios featuring Maddison and Kulusevski as CMs in season two in particular.
- If we don't bring in anybody that fits that description this January, the best bet would be to turn Simons into a CM somehow. No other player in the current squad even has an outside chance of being that guy; and this current situation where we're 12th despite setting unbreakable records in overachieving our xG is not sustainable.
How do you know we did anything besides call them once?
Great post once again, please keep it up. Frank-ball on the other hand is boring me to death.For a pass to make sense, it's not sufficient for it to be available is it?
It must also be offering the potential recipient a clear option in the form of a shot, a pass, a cross or whatever. Otherwise it's pointless at best, detrimental at worst.
What I mean will become more clear soon hopefully.
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There's a pass here, but what's the point? Palhinha is looking straight at VDV, and doesn't seem like he has any intention other than passing it straight back in case he gets it.
Bentancur knows too: See his left arm pointing at Romero's direction.
I don't think the pass to Bentancur, illustrated with red dotted arrow, is on.
The pass to Palhinha is on obviously; but again, what's the point? He's already pointing at VDV as an indication of his intentions in case he gets the ball.
The pass is on to both players here, but they're both being watched closely. And they're hardly the type that will receive the ball in a tight area, pull a sharp half turn to shake off the defender(s) before creating himself the opening to burst forward with the ball or make a forward pass .That's where the inadequate player profile becomes a serious hindrance.
To make matters worse, since spacing is so bad, as soon as one gets the ball the two Brentford players could double team him without worrying about the other guy. Recipe for disaster knowing the said player profile.
Even the commentator felt compelled to mention how ridiculously close they were standing.
I deliberately widened the screenshot to the fullest to make a few points here:
-Look at all that space. Illustrates the essentiality of having a good ball carrier / passer that can get his team out of these high press situations on a regular basis. We don't need 10 signings to sort this mess out: Even a progressive passer or two would do a world of difference.
-The pass to Bentancur that was there momentarily is no longer on. Brentford's #27 has anticipated it. Besides, what I said above regarding the rubbish spacing indicates that Bentancur would've most likely gotten blindsided by Brentford's #6 even if it was on.
-The pass to Palhinha is on, but #6 is also in a good spot to harrass him in case the former gets the ball. Would you fancy Palhinha in such a battle against any midfielder in the league where he had to be the creator instead of the disruptor? I wouldn't.
Pass the ball in these situations to a player with Palhinha's skillset, and watch it go back to the keeper in no time in the outlined fashion. That's what Porro eventually decided to do himself.
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Indeed that £4.5m could pay for the construction of a stand behind the unoccupied goal thereby completing their stadium?
Well I suppose they must be giving Frank the transfer window, so aren't thinking of sacking him even at the end of the season, as things stand.
Spain will win the World Cup and these athletic beasts can get to fuck for a while, and hopefully die a death
I’m not really sure we chased him around all summer. We went for him after Eze went to Woolwich, I don’t recall hearing much about us being interested before then
Agreed. We are already playing a CF out of position (Muani). He’s got a great goal scoring record in Europe according to folk on here. We need to blow our load on creativity from left back, left wing and centre mid