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Transfers The Winter Transfer Thread - 25/26
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I hear that argument.
I think it ignores one thing. Bad managers and good managers can look the same in the first year. Average managers and excellent managers can look the same too.
I think you can point to some differences but Arteta, Klopp and Poch all looked much worse in the first 6-18 months than they ended up being. Arteta and Klopp both finished 8th in their first full season during a time when the league was significantly less competitive than it is now.
Of course most managers who look average ARE average. But the tricky thing is you only know who wasnt worth sticking with in hindsight. You don’t know in real time those managers who will eventually exceed expectations.
If you can’t bring in a world class manager then this period is period of the process. And yes, the odds are still against Frank ever being right.
It’s tricky.
We're currently looking on enviously at Aston Villa with the squad they've built, and you'd likely be suggesting that the DoF that built it should be one that we try to get. The irony is that we already have him.
None of us are privy to the remit that Lange was given regarding player purchases. For all we know, his remit was to go and get the best young prospects available so we could build towards a challenging team over say 5 years.
This may be true, it may not be, but my point is we simply don't know. What is clear is that we currently have a manager who isn't really getting the best out of what he has, whilst Villa do.
It should also be noted that Lange wasn't handcuffed in his spending, as Villa have been flirting with PSR for a few seasons now. His recruitment strategy was different to what he's done with us, suggesting that it was under instruction.
What I'm interested to see is what his remit is now, under a change of upper management. If ENIC are serious about spending towards success, then I'm expecting to see a change in the strategy. Not necessarily in this window, but during the Summer.
Brighton and Brentford. .....for God sake.
Two clubs that should never be used as some kind of benchmark or barometer for Tottenham Hotspur
Not now, not in the past, not ever.
Archie proves rather disproves the notion our recruitment has been below par. All the above are better than him, cost less and now worth much more whilst we would struggle to get our money back.
Doesn’t really matter a jot whether we as fans rate a player before or after the fact, there are supposed to be professionals within who are highly paid to spot a talent and beat others to the march rather than dithering when the price was nominal yet going all out when it has increased ×4 as in Eze.
Not sure if you jest about players getting away with bad days so I'll give you a break.
Its revisionist of course, until you see the signings playing for you it's hard to judge them on anything but their body of work for past and present club, no? Everyone was saying Liverpool had won the transfer window but it looks for all the world like they've spent £263m net and got worse as a team, Gyokeres was supposed to be smashing them in for Woolwich, it doesn't matter how people felt about the window at the time, it's only going to matter how well (or not) those players do over the length of their deal.
Levy gone but winter window still opens on the 31st for us (if at all)
Some things never change.
Both above us in the table...just saying ..*ahem*
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We must be readying an offer for someone if we just offloaded johnson.
I agree mate
You mean, preparing, weighing up and considering to bid?
Probably won't be anything for a couple of weeks, they will use Oderbert and Tel for a while.
You would like to think an incoming was imminent.
An offer. God strewth.
Yeah we’re monitoring a few situations ready to swoop in with a gazumpuatory offer from the warchest.
If there is no change between Levy's tenure and the new board, then I'm flipping tables. No fucking way we wait until deadline day to replace BJ.
The coming week is going to be excruciating. But at least we'll know by mid-Jan what we've got upstairs.
The coming week is going to be excruciating. But at least we'll know by mid-Jan what we've got upstairs.
There's so many examples of "they shouldn't have stuck with this guy" vs. "good thing they stuck with this guy" that I don't think they're worth much anymore.
But I think if you believe we have a midtable quality squad, expecting a new manager to come in and get anything better than midtable results is unrealistic. Frank is an experienced Prem manager who did extremely well at Brentford, mostly prior to every Prem club becoming gigarich. I think he at least deserves a season and a half to bring in his players. If we're still bad at this time next year, then we can have discussions to sack him.
Not a season and a half. A season imo. If there is no positive direction of travel then he needs to go. The club anyway normally have an end of season review. Atm imo hes well behind schedule.
Archie proves rather disproves the notion our recruitment has been below par. All the above are better than him, cost less and now worth much more whilst we would struggle to get our money back.
Doesn’t really matter a jot whether we as fans rate a player before or after the fact, there are supposed to be professionals within who are highly paid to spot a talent and beat others to the march rather than dithering when the price was nominal yet going all out when it has increased ×4 as in Eze.
Not sure if you jest about players getting away with bad days so I'll give you a break.
They are all older than him and I don’t think they will be better than him when he’s at his peak.
How good was Elliot Anderson at 19?
MGW was in the Championship still?