I hope we avoid Paqueta, not a bad player but if we are going to sign a more experienced 10 I want someone without all the baggage. He seems desperate to go back to Brazil so let’s just avoid him altogether.
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If Paqueta isn't doing it for West Ham, there is zero reason to believe moving to us would change that on a basis to justify the expenditure.Agree with that. Very good footballer and we need more of them but he wants to go home. There’s a reason he wants to and for me signing him is full of red flags.
Mentality and pure defending he was top. But overall see him more as their version of a Micheal Dawson rather than Ledley.Carragher was a terrific defender mate. That's bias right there.
You can't play for a club like Liverpool as many times as he did without being very good.
If Vuskovic proves to be anywhere as good as Carragher, in reality, then we have a real player.
Well what we need is both.
Weird that some see the solution as sub-contracting our young players' development to other clubs rather than fix the issue of why players aren't developing in house.
Mentality and pure defending he was top. But overall see him more as their version of a Micheal Dawson rather than Ledley.
Let’s revisit this in October or so, but I’ve watched a fair bit of Vuskovic and he has “the eye of the tiger”. Was hyperbolic saying he’s better right now, but if we filtered back Carragher/Vidic to 19;
Was Liverpool youth, 1997 he got couple sub apps and 1997/8 broke through at 19/20 playing 20x
Vidic
Widely considered as one of the greatest defenders of all time, Vidić is best known for his time at Manchester United, where he won 15 trophies and served as club captain. He is one of only five players to win the Premier League Player of the Season award twice, alongside Thierry Henry, Kevin De Bruyne, Cristiano Ronaldo and Mohamed Salah.
At 19 he was yet to make his Red Star Belgrade debut, he was on loan to Spartak Subotica (27 apps 6goals = much like Vuskovic in Poland at 17. Broke through 2001 when he turned 20 in Oct.
Vuskovic is playing well ahead of those two relative to ages. Vuskovic had big clubs trying to sign him at 15, we somehow grabbed a potential world class CB for £12m who has since shown much more than any of us could have expected in his developmental curve.
Think many of us got it with him early so it’s been a joy, that we could have a Vidic like CB in the era of setpiece importance, he might well be that utter ball magnet beast at both ends once grown and experienced. Breaking defensive records, multiple rookie of the month in bundasliga, scoring a Puskas nomination worthy back heel volley. When you stack our boys achievements up it’s not silly to think he may well explode next season with a fair wind (or maybe season after, if Romero and VDV stay).
It would be an act of lunacy to let him go, unless we buy or acquire another striker beforehand.
The problem is that he doesn't.
I've seen all the "but he's checked out cos West Hame are shite" arguments, but Bowen hasn't, and he's playing in the same team.
Id give him a very wide berth personally. I've seen nothing from him that makes me think yeah, we could work with that. Add on the baggage and he's just another millstone around our necks.
Plus if he leaves on a free, he can get a higher salary + signing bonus from whatever European club he signs with. Given he'll still start for Portugal at the WC, it doesn't make sense for him to leave now.Depends if he wants to collect the full amount of the obscene contract that they gave him. He’d probably be leaving 10m or more on the table if he left in Jan.
It's alright, we've never left ourselves short recently so I'm confident we'll keep him around for the time being.
It would be an act of lunacy to let him go, unless we buy or acquire another striker beforehand.
It is kind of amusing that a player no one particularly wanted, and was seen as a piece of furniture a month ago that we'd have gladly jumped to move on, is now seen as completely necessary.
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I'm hesitant to believe these reports, the same was being said about Richarlison literally days ago until he tweeted that it was bollocks.Yeah I'm not a fan personally, he hasn't even played that well over the past year and I'm pretty sure he's still spot fixing, can't be arsed with that - he's 28 and should be in his prime but it seems like he wants to back to Brazil so...
Even if Spurs would sign a WF they would still need both Tel because 2 fit WFs are not enough...I have never thought Tel was brilliant or crap. Neither view makes sense.
Tel staying isn't completely necessary if we bring a striker in before any possible loan move.
We’ve looked at a lot of people.