Buy backs are only useful if a player wants to come back. Might work for guys who dream of playing for Madrid.
Why would a guy who hasn’t featured and been ignored by consecutive managers want to come back? I’ll take a sell-on percentage every time.
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Why would a guy who hasn’t featured and been ignored by consecutive managers want to come back? I’ll take a sell-on percentage every time.
Even so. He's a very slight upgrade on what we have and blocks Bergvall's development for minutes, who could be a far superior player to Gallagher. Villa wanted him for depth, he didn't want that. He's come here to start games, and if this whole talk about us wanting to challenge (lol) are true, players like him are not the answer. Can't we just move on from the buying more mediocre cast offs? We have a team chalk full of these players.
I disagree with a lot of these picks- players will perk up again if we can just in some credible managerial talent and give them some stability.
Biggest issue for me right now is clearing out the logjam at CM since we won't have midweek football next year.
Solanke isn't even match fit and Thomas appears to be choosing him to start, which means he's not gonna be starting the Prem games also (probably). Seems hes going to prioritize CL as I guess he must see it as the only shot at glory left to him at this point. I disagree and wish he would focus on the league- CL is merely a pipe dream for this team right now, and at some point, we are going to get stomped by a proper CL aspirant.
But you're assuming we'd buy 'sub standard' crap, that's not what I'm saying.
We should be able to sign players which align with our structure and philosophy. Conversely we should also be recruiting a head coach who fits into the same style as well so he can coach the players that fit his image, that's how it's meant to be done especially at a club like Tottenham
The alternative is this which is even more messier, signing players for a manager who might not be there in a months time, that strategy is silly because you're always going to be chopping and changing and catering to whatever manager you bring in, it doesn't make sense and it's similarly the reason why we are in this mess because we've chopped and changed strategies and had 0 plan and signed players who don't align with any sort of philosophy.
This isn't short termism, this is thinking long term.
Our DOF should be gone in the summer after years of incompetence, so his philosophy isn't one I'd be following. I'm sure the ownership will carry our a full review at the end of the season to deflect and fob the blame off to someone else to appease fans who, a large majority want to see a new recruitment structure. Easy win. Then, we choose a DOF, who is established with a proven track record, hire a manager based on his philosophies and the players later.
The Gallagher signing just screams of being reactive with no real plan as to how it improves us at all, which is Lange to a tee. So I want us to think beyond him, Frank and the table right now. He was available, we bought him. He solves absolutely nothing for our first team. Which will be the process for any new player we sign because his track record proves it.
Getting Lange to sign more players is just a waste of time and resources and screws over who comes in next, trying to shoehorn these average players into their side while trying to phase them out.
Unless opportunities arise for players of the profile we should be aspiring to, then I'd rather sign no one. Get rid of Frank, ride this nightmare out and regroup in summer with actual firms plans on place. That's how a big club should work.
Well until he leaves you'd rather a strategy that makes sense, one that the club can follow with or without Lange, as the alternative is to sit on our hands and do nothing, pointless. If another DOF comes in they ought to be doing the same thing...this is the way the majority of football clubs operate these days regardless
Actually what we should be doing is sounding out our future coach to align with the players we are looking to bring in this window and future windows.
We'll the players we've brought in and looking to bring in under Lange paints a bleak fucking picture. Again, I'd rather sign none of the players he's lined up because he has been an umitigated disaster, and his judgement is fucking awful. I don't think there's any manager that's going to look at the team and rub their hands at working with the likes of Odo, Tel, Vic, Dom, Richi, et al.
So no, hard disagree. Sack the fraud, interim for the rest of the season while a clear and well thought out strategy put on place so that we can go into the summer aligned for fucking once.
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is stupid.
You’re belaboring the point.
It doesn’t change the fact that the Gallagher who was the Chelsea captain is a huge upgrade on the players that we have for that profile In just about every stat imaginable including goals and assists. Yes, he will block the development of some of those players but it’s quite clear from the resounding boos around the ground that the fans aren’t prepared to live with the end-product that those players with ‘potential’ that we have in this position currently produce. In fact, those players are responsible for a lower half league position and getting bounced out of both cups in the early rounds. Some of them simply shouldn’t be playing the minutes for us that they have given their age and experience. Trial by fire. Do you want to ‘give them time’ with probably similar results or upgrade them. I’ll take the latter and upgrade where we can.
Your argument is that all of them suddenly become better players if we put a different profile alongside — is Sarr going to be better than Gallagher because we buy Wharton? I’d argue ‘No’. Buying a better box-to-box midfielder doesn’t prevent us from buying a progressive passer. It just makes more work for those that manage our squad in summer. We pay them beaucoup to deal with those headaches.
You're trying to make this about Lange, I'm not sure why I don't care about him and that's not my point.
My point is about philosophy and structure, it doesn't matter who our DOF is, Lange, Paratici, Campos, Freedman etc...any DOF that comes in and actually does their job properly ought to be setting up a structure and centreing around their recruitment of players and coach.
And on your point though until we sack Lange (there's not guarantees we will) the idea you're presenting here wishful thinking. Lange could be here for another 2-3 years for what we know. In an ideal world I'd get rid of him and bring in a DOF suited to what I am wishing for but it's what it is at the moment, we need to work with what we have.
I didn't argue that point at all re your second paragraph. I'm saying one player, who last year won our player of the year at 18 has an ocean of potential more than Gallagher does, and prioritising his development, especially now, should take priority. Instead we sign an okay player, no where did I mention Sarr. Signing Conor Gallagher now does absolutely nothing for our team, it was a stupid decision, waste of money. You seem how ineffective he's going to be, his performance against West Ham wasn't a one off, it's because it's not the skillset we need for NOW.
At Chelsea he played far more advanced, same at Palace too. If you think that's a great signing and the players we need for right now..... Oh boy.
I think having a DOF suited to what you're wishing for also requires a degree of competence of ownership. Which as they've yet again show they severely lack.
Gallagher, if he’s the same player he was at Chelsea (and there’s little reason to think the won’t be at his age) automatically becomes the best 8 on our team. He’s better than any other option we have in that position. And, yes, he can play 10 too if need be and he’s better there than Simons.
That improves us. End of.
Aye, no bother. We'll keep signing players a slightly bit better than the shite we have no, for our lofty aspirations of being less shite. Great.
I read an article a few weeks back that Atletico Madrid were looking to move Gallagher on because there's a rule in that league that a club can only have three non-EU players in their squad. They wanted to sign another non-EU player and Gallagher had a higher value than the other two, I can't find the article or remember the exact details but something along those lines.
I heard Gallagher used his Irish passport when he signed for them so counted as an EU player? €42million player uses Irish passport to avoid 'Brexit rule' after move
Apparently Bellingham did the same.
*Yes, Spanish La Liga clubs have strict limits on non-EU players, typically allowing a maximum of three non-EU players to be registered and named in matchday squads,
Ah okay, it must have been a crappy article that I had read.
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I don't think this is the same article that I had read but it's pretty much saying the same thing, so misinformation..png)
Why ex-Chelsea star Conor Gallagher could be forced to leave Atletico Madrid after just one season - explained | Goal.com UK
Conor Gallagher pay be forced to leave Atletico Madrid after just one season at the club, due to a peculiar La Liga rule which impacts English players.
www.goal.com
